Probably Bad 31

D&Daniel here we have new friends, Brian and Lana. They supplement our eternal friends hedwig and carlo

hello and welcome to the probably nbad podcast I pencil

and i’m paper today’s probably bad rpg idea is… a tabletop RPG with six stats – some gumption, moxie, childlike wonder. The cut of my jib and ne sais quoi while it is an idea they got anything we got tagged in until the speaking dissident idea of not look so do sewers, source, and it was using philosophy should scribble.

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Yeah, because I’m an intellectual. I realise that there is no such thing as a synonym and that these words would have subtle distinctions and came up with is that gumption is initiative expressed confidence and moxie is determination. So it is you sorry again what moxie I believe those so high. This feels like either very artsy day are all childlike wonder to enjoy your flower or really like serious tactical game verify know you need to make sure you have exactly your in order to not speak what think the cut of someone’s cheaply full disclaimer. I have absolutely no idea only heard it is like the phrase I like to cut of your jib, No idea what little sense how someone behaves like that you have your chip yet. Hence like what you have yet why have more cuts on your chip that makes sense yet and I feel like telling wonder, could maybe work is almost like insight, the more childlike wonder you have, the easier you are to trick high-level is more childlike, low levels, you have to wonder of 50-year-old accountant, whose only hobby is balls against each other and maximum levels. You have the one you stand elegance away establish now then, what fibres these six stats would actually transfer to in a playable game which I’m quite enjoying civil got initiative, confidence, determination, naïveté, demeanour and something else. His mighty you have a sat. You don’t know what it does is it levels up becomes a bit like your certain agency. What becomes more and more certain and becomes clear what actually does say levels. You know your sister, so Thomas like something that you determine through gameplay. Yeah, like the kind of like an some parts of fate where it’s like a well of denial. I guess it’s a character trait now. Like I feel like yeah, it stops authors from certain genetic certain agency definitions. Finally, it’s just just say, just an I say what her friends worked very about French was made to save you know, say French so negative words. Yeah, you can yet you follow Tumblr user philosophy should scribble per student, like messenger resource in our people, ship and social people who listen but don’t follows Tom though which I’m sure there are some of you pencil posted something that was like R1. If you kept the guillotine from your game and used it on, I dunno, maybe just business. Just as a suggestion, so decided to message as that would be reported to Tumblr for wishing death on Jefferies, so just as a disclaimer giving of the tongue like Amazon products. I noway advocate guillotine eject. Measles doesn’t give his poise adequately operates and anything putting it on, probably bad PDA dear suggest that we to condone it. We condemn the guillotine in billionaires and redistributing the wealth is not legal, so please thanks thanks for that contribution, the very social game, yet I noticed we have a fight that could be what yours Yunus requires. You don’t know the sausage is. This is my sword sick. What I low, games are a thing can be good, but it is all combat rules are boring, because they don’t usually enjoy, sequences would what situation you situation where your confidence and situation wayward nation. Confidence is more like high and good at this. I am right and determination is I’m gonna try and sister stuff that your profession and determination is the stuff we’re trying anyway, God dammit. You start or try your best. You know what to do with. I wouldn’t be detrimental to have two. However, moxie staff just keep trying, ridiculous stunts and you will die from yet moxie is your determination, but not look you role to keep trying your incredibly stupid do have an childlike wonder which is literally just see how dumb you are, to some of the some of these are negatives that, and I support this with some master yeah level I have been that might amass that take all skill the venue my life cancel. What if this is a game where all the pieces are him rose well like. It’s like the not an intelligent stat is like the sort of the stone except only pulled out by him rose and sits above work together and they’ll stone saw now their older rightful to you and exploring like the political struggle been keeping Kitty’s six-month but well I think they got confused picked up all stone and took it home with one state while they got the sort. Technically, I suppose they are rehearsals yet. So yes a political gain, and they have to, like, you know, negotiate a stop. As mentioned, no masses service college you walk, France. This is why so many waterfront. Does Britain’s ruled entirely by the councils in those and if you know any history.correctly I write seen pictures of the Plantagenets him was supposed to be attractive to those of you know history are captured seems to USENET. Can they have a mediaeval studies masters so I think exceeded. We are appealing to some very large demographics. Anyway, this game is good of your bonus episode and again happen, even a certain Jesse Kwok could work your destiny. Yeah, don’t know where the DM assigns everyone a destiny and they have to roll to move towards a death. Yeah, so we assume this game, so I’m sorry understating about how it would work in play. Thinking is kind of if you just kind of hoping that this is what you’re supposed to be doing you role your genus Equus. That, and that determines whether it moves you towards a destiny or not. Very weird results, but also whittle Nokia with definitely medicine kind of an Arthurian game makes no sense. It’s fine determines whether or not Merlin shows up to you that what this is a cannon that contains and then he came across a bunch of horny people and had to not be horny with them, work questionnaires, though the him rose on horny enough to resist rather just clueless enough to not realise what’s happening number childlike wonder stack yeah sure I want to start. I use the less, like your juice by room. Yeah I will I will play this game and I will because we have a patriot on probably bad PDA ideas bonus episodes at this in a be a bonus episode and fight anyone who tries to stop making it happen so yet. If you want to see him voting, offering both nights of table and bozo sound like a word. And yeah, yes, we have no questions this week I’m afraid we do have second questions. We have a questions CRASH have a question this week of April 2 ID take another podcast work and yes we do. We do have IGS don’t have any questions this week which hero that’s fine, happens so got second idea and each of the player characters lives in a different any am can travel doesn’t exist. It’s okay. So standard that you’re going and what is so player to insectlike Sligo node is a big stonewalling way men play, one has to arrange things back in at the Stonewall not way in a thousand years and then failed to get them player three in the year, the third millennium needs to Stonewall that essentially you have to synchronise in people. Users of videogame but don’t have the podcast table copy. Yeah, I think I have played a videogame. Kind of like this and not on the scale of millennia, but scan of a couple of years later, another couple of years after that to arrange things to help each other thinking Day of the tentacle. Think of thinking of Dave tentacle you the characters go to different time periods and have to arrange things to help the people another time. To help the present and it’s very play Dave tentacle. Yes, 40, those are copyrighted, so make yourself so this is my original idea is called night of the limb of the world is taken over basic I think the other way to do it is to have the first player from a thousand years ago, Beaver feedback and their setting up once and the way the game to just be shipped could work sheet have an idea so you have a and because it’s grown up is hard to time when everyone can be around same top what you do again woman really understand using their whatever powers they have to do some big, exciting world game second game set out you slated the consequence of what First Lady maybe will need to shorten the time, was the last player so so. Like and so exquisite corpse thing. So with RPG sessions. If you set in a forest. It would be an exquisite cups at the quiet, now notices a podcast of the people it words I do like this idea of doing it like that because what is. I think what we were going from originally was the idea that they’re all working on the same goal like they are aware of each other somehow and can presumably communicate against somehow probably magic underwear working towards this goal. That requires them to do things different time periods, but the idea was can be harder to organise an exquisite corpse type adventure like like a lot of one-on-one yet they RPG type stuff can be think harder, because there’s just one player you can’t just let them do stuff while you figure stuff out. Yeah, I think it be easier to like, arrange time to be quite yeah, you need to make sure you have checked. Yeah, I guess you could do small groups. Yeah, I think it will be difficult because you do have problem that you might not just happy one player sit around while you what I do try words are especially workable idea finally found an idea where we don’t end with and that’s an RPG that we would play like a few like a caseload I fixed. If you have my suggestions from you `all players might want to see what the effects of their effect on what got you go know you’re wrong that stab and thanks sorry I don’t know when talking about the issue of having chosen. I RPG I do in my but I don’t have to make it work if Ron and Harry like a big. It’s like relatively short one player that might easier together may centre on site you’ve got maybe a week in world to do as much can then it’s like Mavis, like, you know, okay, great general, this story be up there final battle something goes yeah like that and then tells the next person like you got one person playing the similarly and one person playing the Hobbit one-person Klingon of the raise. Yes, that you like describe everything to only two like you only starting not take your talking yet time and yeah think I would be in interesting thing to do, but I’m I’m genuinely not sure how fun it would be beyond to very specific kind of player by which I mean the kind of player that I hate who wants to be the protagonist all the time is obviously gonna be one of the ridiculously, slightly so very easy, but no less people into very niche games like the main appeal. What was someone’s like I like RPG’s. What I don’t like is other people while you get them on their own somewhere else. You you are a great general. Oh, so you are half demon arcade of Dragon to swords and your back story is that you are secretly leaking so history’s greatest wizard, you could say lover your like at this as a game for removing problem players from the ecosystem. See the lots where they can get what you live like this day, just like okay, just really should just play the biggest Mary Sue self insert character possible. What character meant for risky credit. We like our clever everybody loves them and they invented Mary’s jail late to go to jail around but you know it is just what work just make your like casinos like there’s anyone else be competing presence for reiterating my pointer. They will be absolute hell to DM, especially if it is Mary Sue jail like you know, stick to read about and read it like a problem with like those kind players is that they Know the characters and to draw attention away from them like that most of your characters, you know, sought mother like you know half against. So like definitely like think SFE like some kind just reset every feel like a lot of taken away: “let’s then it just a case of like you don’t, you get to spend however long building election and the next player is like your consequence of this legible everything I like it. Also like that you could potentially be like. Sometimes plays the stand-up altering law with roles. Yeah idea that you have this big, powerful character in the first one and then the second on-site will actually that’s all I like the idea like it is almost like yeah in. In actuality, wordless right brain shooting sailor, Princess Paul Princess Hawk. Yeah, and what’s that, yeah, you franchises but remember my 10 like oh yes, this humble and quiet man who saw power because of his M3 sessions role to see a well people remember one laboratory much honour and were particularly like creative people is bettering away better or worse I am. I’m saying that particularly creative beagle is a more interesting character than a house Dragon heart Angel house, whatever the other thing was like in this world service someone dies all the memories of remembrance, particularly creative people, so thank you for listening to our nonsense. Once again, guess I’m mentioning the patroness. If you have a question I can email prodded by comcast@gmail.com or messages about RPG ideas tumbler if you want to supporters and away the Getty more tangible stuff than patriot on all we are red bubble. I keep forgetting to mention a swear on red bubble is probably bad. You can get a design within Daniel on it and also some good stuff and so yeah, thank you, and they bad day

Probably Bad 30

We made a new friend its merrit a fun new friend of the show, joining Hedwig and Carlow. It makes me all tingly and my insides enjoy the show.

Hello, and welcome to the probably bad podcast a podcast which is definitely bad i’m pencil

and i’m paper, we made a mistake. Watch the movie file.not very good title of this episode was a joke, but then what’s to move only lists thing I have ever seen, because even makes you horny and everyone in this film is canonically evil.

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Still, We Ate a Six That This Will Minutes Is Nothing We Win These Both Incredibly Convoluted and Completely Lacking in Any Kind of like One Character Will Just Show Character and Inaccurate.and Then It Will Just Always Feels like You’re Missing a Scene Was a Plate of Naughty, but There like Every See Your Slight Every Scene Feels like When Worm Walking Twitch TV Show Halfway through the Episode. Try and Figure out These People Are What Going on, but This Year Time. Yeah, I Acted like a Conger Member Any of the Major Characters Names except Grayson Possibly Says Something That’s Mostly Because Week Because I Kept Saying Grayson and My Heavy Rain Voice If You Hadn’t Reminded Know What Disney -like. The Characters Are, As I Said That the Bed Three Stereotypes Gets You. You Are so yet You Have so Evil, Manipulative and What Is Mind Very Secret Agenda Villain for Evil Stereotypes. One Good Stereotype and a Checklist Chair Thief Has like Carers Seems Well at the Kaiser Thai Hyde Upshot Was like at Their Aims Sucked out. It All Feels Re-It All Feels like Getting off on It, Even When It’s Not Explicit Sexy Paper Said That They Wanted Got into the First Introduction to D&D Absolutely Would Now Which I Feel Part of High Fantasy. Yeah, I Think It’s Sort of Thing. If You Were to Take That Terrible like Camping Had Budgeted to 14-year-olds before You like Understood Nuance and Stopping up to Realise What You Do up or If You Took Any Random like RPG from Our Horror Stories Make That into a Movie That It’s Just Just Not Good Really Is the Risk of Continuing to Rant about It for Another 20 Minutes. Thank You for Listing Terrors Rant about That Film. The 20 Minutes Watch It If You Want I Would I Would Sleep Only Fine All Even If That’s What You’re into, Better Plots, to Be Honest, Earning a Doubt What the Performance Gain, but Surely Most of Them Have a Better Plot. Yes, Thank You for Listening to the Angry Draft about This Film We Just Watched Poorly Disguised There. We Have, We Have ML and Stuff. If You Have a Question to the Podcast or Just Want to Tell As How You Feel about This Film and Can Email Pretty Bad podcast@gmail.com or messages on Tumblr happily bed RPG ideas and we have a picture on my Newton get access to homebrew stuff such as elemental worms and bonus episodes and discovered server and I don’t know why my voice is doing this and a patriot on an probably bad opportunities and cerebral to have a thoroughly bad day because the phone was so bad I need some good in the world is remembered good media members have a probably good day

Probably Bad 32: Identity Theft, Stealth Trebuchet, and Spider Pictionary

Hello tabletop tim here your one and only source for probably bad news. There’s no other. Never was. Thanks be to our patrons Hedwig and Carlo goodbye for now

pencil

welcome to the probably bad podcast a podcast which is definitely bad I’m pencil

paper

and I’m paper and we have our first ever guest, tal mineer, creator of sidequesting

tal

hi, that’s me, very excited to be here.

paper

and today’s probably bad RPG idea is world of darkness campaign where you never encounter anything supernatural sure the vampire conspiracies, and werewolf armies are out there, the gm reassures you but this campaign is focused on the DMV

pencil

I feel like in world of darkness and horror in general, it’s really easy to foget there is a mundane world in it it’s really easy to forget there are other things than vampires & that’s when you get the idea of throwing something mundane into your game and if eel like that’s just taking it to its natural conclusion only mundane stuff in your game supernatural keeps its excitement when it appears by never appearing

paper

I do feel like things like being a vampire would involve a lot of admin at a certain point you need to establish a new identity and that’s going to be a lot of paperwok

TAL

depends on how you define supernatural like what if, what if your party is a bunch of vampires and you’e all just at the DMV trying to get drivers licence for your new identity like is it supernatural If you are technically like a supernatural being, but never doing anything cool or what

pencil

I do love the idea of your characters are recently turned into vampires and the entire plot is just dealing with life. The pragmatic everyday things like arranging to only work at night with my boss and so forth no exciting things happen.

paper

Especially for an old vampire. What if you were born before like NHS numbers or Social Security numbers you need to get one, you need a national insurance number to get a job and you need an income at some point you have to work out how to get one

tal

maybe that campaign is you just trying to convince people good at forging documents to make you the new documents so just bribery or threats,

pencil

this is getting to like a crime. Crime RPG which is just standard heist, but one person is a vampire you got the muscle you got the stealth you vampire roles like that.

tal

Really fun

pencil

I can imagine a vampire running a heist where all the different roles are filled by different supernatural creatures,

vampire, werewolf wizard fairy and a ghost have to break into a bank

paper

in order to get the money to file the paperwork to get drivers licenses

tal

yes

pencil

have to break DMV to steal drives licences which, I’m like 90% sure are just in a big box

paper

make it harder you’re not stealing the licences you’re stealing the equipment to make the licences cause where do you get a laminator in this day and age

tal

just steal the DMV, the entire building

paper

take the DMV and push it somewhere else

pencil

this plan doesn’t actually solve your problem. Anyway, still have a drivers license or you have is just a building

tal

who needs a drivers license when you can have the DMV itself.

paper

Now that the buildings missing you can take your time breaking in.

pencil

how dare You suggest I don’t have a drivers license if I didn’t have a driver’s license how could I have the entire DMV in my back garden.

paper

This is where drivers licenses are born

pencil

I’ll have as many drivers licenses as I like

tal

I feel like that the issue is, even if you move the DMV somewhere else people who are desperate to get their own drives license and whatever are going to find the location of the new DMV and will go find you

pencil

This is my second campaign, which is where you play monster hunters were trying to track down vampires who stole the DMV to get drivers licenses.

paper

But if you to get the drivers licenses themselves. The issue of trying to get a job without ID by stealing the job vampires coming over here and stealing our jobs

tal

that’s the vampire conspiracy become the vampire, and you steal the DMV and the DMV is just allegedly run by vampires

pencil

it’s increasingly abstract and metaphorical shots going to break into the rich guy’s house and steal their memories of childhood or something

paper

if you think about it is identity theft itself not a kind of weird ethereal crime sounds like something fae would do

tal

if you were fae running the DMV you could steal a lot of identities

pencil

a lot of people’s true names if you were working at the DMV. That’s quite a good plot hook for a supernatural setting

tal

your campaign is focused on the DMV that might not be anything supernatural at first, but that lovely clerk may be hiding something

pencil

potentially like legitimately intriguing campaign idea around the DMV

paper

normally takes a lot longer to get to a good campaign

pencil

you’re too good at this.

tal

I just think I just think the DMV. It’s really fascinating as a concept a kind of ethereal place like you just get when you sit there for hours and leave with maybe a drivers licence if you had all the right paperwork

pencil

you don’t remember any of the time in between when you sit sitdown and get your license and no memories of the last few hours

paper

The DMV concept intrigues me because we don’t have one.

pencil

I’m aware of it only through sitcoms which is probably the best knowledge base for a long discussion

paper

I literally know it from the simpsons

pencil

All I know is you queued for a lot and then someone might take two forms and then you get given a drivers licence and also a fairy steals your name

tal

basically what it’s like a lot of waiting in between you get in have someone check your forms to make sure you have the right forms and ten more waiting and then they check your forms and then you do more waiting then you get the thing you need and go home

paper

from what you say there are multiple opportunities for vampire to take you aside for a quick chat about your forms and drink you dry.

tal

Absolutely

pencil

there was a horror short story that was like can I steal a few hours of your time? Yes And then you put the phone down and feel a few hours older. There’s definitely something

something here of just going to slowly absorb your lifespan, and you’re going to assume it’s a normal part of going to the DMV. going back to the fairies running the DMV.

paper

Yeah it goes beyond being a liminal space. It is being actual fairyland, thinking you’ve only queued for three hours, but you are there all day.

pencil

Just just love the idea of Alice in Wonderland, which goes down the rabbithole and she’s just in-line at the dmv the really anticlimactic magical world travelling:

paper

Or a narnia thing when you queue for hours to get your licence, you come out. It’s a minute later and you still don’t have it.

tal

That would be a nightmare

pencil

aslan is just an asshole

paper

Aslan is just one of the supernatural creatures that works in the DMV

tal

can you imagine if there was just a lion behind the front desk

pencil

I honestly don’t know actually if I went into a bureaucracy and saw a lion I’d think the lion can sort it out he’s jesus.

paper

the lion being Jesus would definitely throw me but just a lion in general I’m not sure cause I work in museums sometimes you go into a room and there’s Just like a stuffed fox making a vicious face

pencil

we’ve got a legitimate idea. like idea is to stop Aslan from seeing your identity

tal

Aslan would be pretty good at identity theft. You’d tell a lion anything

paper

they’re just inherently trustworthy creatures.

pencil

Every day I go to the zoo whisper my darkest personal secrets to lions and hope they don’t betray me. There podcast over

tal

I just wish I had my own local zoo to whisper my own secrets to the Lions. There is an aquarium, I could whisper to the jellyfish

paper

do they have lionfish

tal

they have catfish kinda close

pencil

cats are just small lions, like so yeah, we got a good idea which used to make this idea work – go to the zoo and whisper to the lions

tal

and they’ll tell you how to run your campaign

pencil

lions famously natures GMs

paper

that’s why they’re called the king of the jungle they go in and they organise everything very hands-on

pencil

just imagine a lion Gming for the animals, walking in and he just turns and goes excuse me, you’re interrupting and goes back to Gming for snake and a monkey.

tal

I would apologise so fast, sorry to disturb you

pencil

sorry I didn’t realise there was a game on.

paper

.The social anxiety idc if it’s a lion idc I must apologise.

pencil

I think this is the furthest we’ve gone from the original idea. Possibly a in the whole podcast.

tal

A new record

pencil

Should we go to questions?

paper

We should go to some questions I think we should first and I should say that we have a patreon server on probably bad RPG ideas with access to bonus episodes and homebrew and the server where we play one shots,

music

paper

I did it, I said it the first question is from Ask Jolly Roger after making a suggestion to put the mouse folk in the bag of holding temporarily for stealth purposes I am haunted by the jokes following. It how do I get my party to stop wrong answers only. I love when people say wrong answers only like they don’t know what podcast this is have we ever done a right answer

pencil

I don’t see anything wrong with the lion gm answer. Just put you party in the bag of holding problem solved

paper

have you considered making worse suggestions.

tal

I have a bad idea for this, it’s not good. IF you make something really terrible happen in regards to this bag holding the mousefolk so that everyone is too traumatised to make jokes about it. I don’t know what terrible thing. This would be

pencil

what if I put the bag of holding inside the mousefolk

paper

that is a very on band suggestion tell because you just suggesting give your party PTSD.

tal

I mean it’s happened before. It’s not a good idea, you probably shouldn’t give your party PTSD, in any form but.

pencil

Most player characters come with trauma built in. If you just if you just take a bag of holding and take what’s it called, portable hole put them both in the mousefolk that should do it

paper

have you considered instead of putting the mousefolk in the bag holding the person you’re trying to sneak past in the bag holding

pencil

can’t see you if you’re in the bag of holding

paper

and if you just tip them out somewhere else and they’ll be so disoriented that they will not remember that you’ve sneaked past

pencil

have you considered just throwing the mousefolk.

Tal

yeet

paper

What size it is a mouse folk because it’s not something I’ve encountered and I’m just imagining like an actual mouse size just put in a slingshot

pencil

I was just imagining redwall style tiny people. 3 foot tall Apparently

paper

so not slingshot but probably use like a Manganel or Trebuchet.

tal

ah yes, the stealth trebuchet,

paper

what you do as a painter in like splotches of green and yellow so it blends,

pencil

then so my reasoning is, no one will notice I’m here cause they’re all busy going oh my god there’s rocks smashing building from a trebuchet.

paper

But One of the rocks is secretly a mouse folk who then climbs over the rubble

pencil

Technically all stealth missions are a success if you level the building beforehand

tal

or after you got options

paper

and you can also hide behind the trebuchet so they won’t see your faces and then it count as stealth because they don’t know it was you

pencil

looking for the druid but all I can see is this large, bright green trebuchet

paper

cast invisibility on the bag of holding,

pencil

not the mouse folk

paper

and then put the building in

tal

how big is the opening to the back of holding such that you can fit a building in it

paper

you may have to deconstruct the building first

tal

Yeah levelling it

pencil

level the building with the trebuchet, put the rubble in the bag. I don’t know what this accomplishes, I just realised it doesn’t help in any way, it’s just a bag of rubble.

paper

people will stop talking about you wanting to put the mousefolk in the bag of holding which I think was the original question.

tal

I guess if you just do something incredibly ridiculous to make jokes about they’ll make jokes about that

pencil

you do something more embarrassing then they’ll stop talking about the previous embarrassing thing

paper

no one talks about O.J. Simpson -like fumbling a catch

pencil

murdering someone with the bag of holding

paper

I imagine it’s quite easy to murder someone with the bag of holding

pencil

I imagine the bag of holding doesn’t change when you put stuff in it, so it would be quite difficult I can imagine.

Paper

I was thinking more like there’s no air in there or you could keep all sorts of weapons

in it. I think a bag of holding’s a very useful murder weapon or at least accessory.

Pencil

murder accessory is what all the cool assassins are wearing.

Paper

you have to get a black one though to fit the look.

Tal

what we’re saying is if we put the mousefolk in the bag of holding, even if it’s temporary they might die.

Pencil

there is no air in there, it probably won’t go well for the mouse folk.

Paper

they didn’t say they had to – they were going to put them all the way ihn

tal

oh just a ltitle bit with their face sticking out?

Paper

just a little pocket friend

pencil

is this done just so you’ll have a little mousefriend in your pocket?

Tal

that’s so cute.

Pencil

that’s adorable, it’s a shame we’ll have to put it in the stealth trebuchet and launch it at a building.

hazel

hi I’m hazel and I make a podcast called bread and thread, which you might enjoy if you are a fan of food or clothes or other parts of domestic history we find out interesting facts about things like regional foods, ancient breeds of sheep and pretty much anything domestic history. If you’d like to know, why it’s illegal to import sheep into Iceland and what was presented by Queen Victoria to Harriet Tubman, then listen to bread and bread, find us on twitter at breadandthread, and find us anywhere podcasts exist

paper

From rocket, the druid I player often wildshapes into a spider when stealthy reconnaissance is needed. But seeing as spiders can’t talk it’s hard to communicate what they found, without turning back to normal and burning a use of wild shape. How should I communicate with the other party members without leaving spider form,

have you read Charlotte’s Web?, just make a web that incorporates the words he will want to say like just on the outside of the bad guys hideout put up a spiderweb that says knives and then they’ll know they got knives.

tal

Or just make a picture of a knife

pencil

Spider Pictionary.

tal

Spider pictionary, Yes,

paper

basically the plot of Charlottes’ web

tal

you are right and you should say it,

pencil

my suggestion is just, don’t just be a chaotic Spider no one knows what you’re doing and why you’re doing it you

paper

as a spider you’re small and you can run away from the dangerous situation.

Tal

if your party sees you running in the opposite direction they can go oh, Maybe it is bad to go forward,

pencil

half transform into a spider so you’re a giant spider with a human face

tal

that is terrifying

paper

like an animorphs cover

pencil

yeah, like ok so going back to the stealth thing I’m gonna just use recon, because you probably cut it out but all my previous attempts to say it ended up renaissance cause that’s the only word my brain can parse… um but it would help with the recon if all of you turn into partially wild shape so you look like animorphs covers, so noone will look at you long enough to see that you’re in the building, they’ll see you and be like we’ll just block that one out and they’ll leave. This pairs really well with stealth trebuchet.

Paper

wild shape into a mouse hide in a bag…

tal

get into your trebuchet and … ??? …. profit!

Pencil

have you considered all the other players turn into spiders.

Tal

just a whole pack of spiders? That’s terrifying.

Paper

what if you used morse code and just used your mandibles to tap out a message. It would be really quiet so you’ll probably have to climb onto someone’s ear to do it but you could do it.

Pencil

I was assuming giant spider but it’s just a spider.

Tal

you could take up interpretive spider dance

pencil

I was going to suggest interepretive dance.

Tal

yeah it’s what bees do.

Paper

yes spider waggle dance.

Pencil

presumably you need to train your spider dance as a spider which means you’ll have to spend your downtime turning into a spider and dancing. Which I think is a nice way to spend your time.

Tal

a good hobby.

Paper

you might need to build up you performance skill.

Tal

when your party needs some extra money and you’re in a city, it can be like look at our dancing spider, and collect money that way.

Pencil

something weirdly cuel to have your druid get money by turning into an animal, I don’t know what, but it’s cruel

paper

it’s less cruel than a flea circus, an actual thing that exists.

Pencil

I think we-

paper

I think if jurassic park’s anything to go by, if you make enough money by your spider dancing you can bring back dinosaurs.

Tal

that would help with you stealthy reconnaissance

paper

it’s something to do afterwards, or possibly instead

pencil

we’re going to launch a t-rex at this building by a trebuchet, but stealthy, rolled a natural 20 on my stealth, see if they noticed.

Paper

what is the stealthiest dinosaur

pencil

probably one of the little ones. Compsagus o whatever

tal

pterodactyl

paper

yeah I was thinking one of the flying ones like a quetzacoatalus or something.

Pencil

I was thinking brontosaurus.

Paper

explain.

Pencil

people think it’s part of the scenery cause it’s really big, it’s a novelty building.

Paper

do you just paint trees on it

pencil

yeah it’’s like people look and go is that a brontosaurus, no we’d know if it was a brontosaurus it’s clearly just like that’s what a supermarket looks like these days.

Tal

you have me convinced.

Pencil

yeah, we ride our stealth brontosaurus. It’s the opposite of microscopic it’s macroscopic, it’s too big to see.

Tal

what if you just become a really really big spider, idk if that helps in any form, for communication but

paperwork

it would be easier to hear the mandible morse code but it’s also less stealthy

pencil

if you become a big enough spider they can see your face move and then you communicate with facial expressions. Full disclosure I don’t know anything about spider faces but I assume it’s a human face but on a spider.

Paper

now I’m imagining a spider doing mime. You stand up on the back four legs and do the front four legs act out what the danger is.

Tal

spider charades.

Pencil

it’s deepndent on the enemy’s plan to revolve around a film, a book or tv show.

Paper

you can compare it, f they’re planning to ssteal some bearer bonds you do die hard.

Pencil

the spider can only communicate via reference to another 80s action movie and you have to figure out the details.

Paper

only 80s ones nothing from 1990.

pencil

spiders didn’t watch movies back in that time period.

Music

pencil

now we’ve failed to answer your question in any way, our final question is from squishy – how do I get my 55 year old mum to play D&D?

Paper

I’m going to hang back on this one because this is my sister, therefore her mum is my mum and I know how these suggestions get.

Pencil

I say eat her.

Tal

eat the mother.

Paper

do not consume my mother.

Pencil

I am contractually obligated to say eat someone at least once an episode. So the issue is Idk much about your mum.

Paper

basic facts about my mum, she likes action films, and heavy metal, and is actually 56 if that makes a difference.

Pencil

getting rid of all my 55 related ideas.

Tal

cross them off the list.

Pencil

if she likes action films has she considered this spider who charades die hard?

Tal

you just need to introduce a spider from the get-go who’s a little bigger, really great at charades, and is an action movie hero.

Pencil

in every scene the spider gets a little bit bigger and a little bit more like john mcclane.

Paper

are you suggesting this is a helper NPC or just my mum’s character?

Pencil

this isn’t an NPC it’s just in the room as you play D&D.

Paper

ok, it’s not an NPC it’s just in the room. It’s a spider who has gained sentience and is just in the game now.

Tal

part of the party

pencil

yeah this can be your mum’s PC. Othe suggestionns, gunpoint, bribery, how committed are you to your mum not being shot by your sister?

Paper

100%

pencil

that’s going to hamper things.

Tal

what about asking nicely? Just sit down and play a game of D&D?

Pencil

have you considered communication?

Tal

is this on the table?

Pencil

I’m going to veto talking about it like mature adults, so let’s get back to the spider related plans. Bribe her with spiders.

Tal

that’s not a good bribe. If someone bribed me with spiders I would run away.

Pencil

it’s great it works as a bribe or a threat depending on her reaction.

Paper

I honestly don’t know how my mum feels about spiders.

Pencil

you’re gonna find out apparently

paper

I never had a problem with them so I just took them outside myself

pencil

I’m the only member of my family who’s not arachnophobic and that’s how the podcast got to this point.

Paper

it just escalates.

Pencil

yes, so other ways to threaten paper’s mother, I feel the problem is the actual answer si ask her if she’d like to play D&D but that’s not a particularly good punchline

tal

you could get an action movie she really likes and make that the plot of the game. Like you know, like people making a film into a campaign and not telling the players, and she goes oh this is cool, and you’ve got her.

Pencil

invite around the actual metallica to guest star. Idk many metal bands.

Tal

I also don’t.

Pencil

I know metallica is a thing. Just have them show up I’m sure they don’t have anything better to do with their time cause they’re metallica.

Paper

where can they go right now?

Pencil

your mum’s house.

Paper

I don’t like how you said that. She’s a married woman.

Pencil

to play metal music. Idk what other connotations anyone could have had. Yeah, so as a child of the person who is being suggested for an rpg how effective do you think these suggestions will be paper

paper

I feel like she’d be very impressed if either of her children had the clout to get metallica to go to her house.

Pencil

if we get a few more patrons.

Paper

other than that I think it might have to be the threat of spiders.

Tal

very efficient threat.

Pencil

to be fair we did give an actual answer to that, the answer was throw spiders at your mother, as opposed to ‘what if aslan owned the dmv’. So yes, slightly more off topic thing, Tal, would you like to say something about your podcasty thing?

Tal

I can do that.

Pencil

yes, let me get back into saying things to people voice, and yes, on that note we should probably stop talking before we produce any more crimes against humanity and common decency.

Paperp

and my mother.

Pencil

and your mother. Badabadabadaba… there was going to be a sentence there.

Paperp

I believe in you!

Pencil

it’s 3 minutes before the podcast ends and I forget how to use english. Paper introduce tal.

Paper

we’re going to wrap up there before… idk my mum will hear my sister listening to this episode but I doubt she’d approve

pencil

hello paper’s mum!

Paper

tal do you want to explain what sidequesting is before we wrap up?

Tal

sure sidequesting is a fantasy podcast about avoiding the main plot, it follows a character who will do anything as long as it’s not fighting the big scary wizard, and I’m also forgetting how to words and that’s great, it follows a main character who will do anything as long as it’s not the main plot and it has a lot of fun very queer shenanigans and it’s my comfort show to make and I like it a lot.

Paper

I enjoy listening to it.

Pencil

it is a good show.

Tal

aaw thank you.

Pencil

If I hated it it would be very awkward at this point of the guest thing.

Tal

some people want high stakes in their audio fiction shows. Not me.

Pencil

it’s a very calm and comforting podcast.

Paper

if you have a question you can send it to probablybadrpgideas on tumblr o you can email yes I can remember our email…

tal

probablybadpodcast@gmail.com!

Paper

thank you! Remember to listen to sidequesting and remember to have a probably bad day!

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Bread and Thread: Tyrian Purple

Hello and welcome to bread and thread a podcast about food and domestic history i’m liz

and I’m Hazel. We are two friends, he studied archaeology together and love history and making stuff so you been making recently as the part we talk about the making things.

I don’t know why you clarified that that yes it is. I don’t think is the first time a delay confuses the way we’re just starting a history forecast by talking about cake cake good. I did make welsh rarebit are the first time in seven years, though our young some of the home-made beer man are your psychological and was forever in the local Larder. This one was very good and sounds amazing but it’s a beer portion is better. It like contrasts really well with like some sweet sharpness of cheese is its very good value having like a transcendent experience seven year old is dish of my people, literally my father’s father would have you been up to. Just working on projects really reading up a lot about dies and things because quite like to get into doing that and I been been processing and the sheep space that I have in a giant bag my room, so that’s finally getting down. I’ve been doing a lot of carding and spinning. So yeah been like a year by finally getting to so hopefully I have enough of the coat that I would make yeah. And so, just kind of continuing with a few long-term project really are. Having dipped into anything new. I did make chocolate nine cupcakes may work delicious and lime is as underrated as a combination rose great flavour combination right line is a very strong flavour and the chocolate kind of tempers the old-fashioned sweet shop mirrors does chocolate lines which are kind of like an Unite chocolate Clares would take chocolate then the toffee outside. Yeah, like that but instead of toffee at second line boiled sweet arm and hip. That sounds like time is its very good, yeah Stacey so and I did actually when you turn what I would guess my topic for today’s episode of fun so only give you some clues and this episode is about colour. It is the about arguably the most expensive colour in history and it is very associated with ancient Rome and Greece noticed that it did you do get no cutout because the sound cut out right after you said and can ask you to get a no put a message for Curnow facts I get to do that they can so this episode is in a B about a colour and possibly the most expensive colour in history and very associated with ancient Greece and Rome and and this colour is directly responsible for the decimation of a particular species of Mediterranean snail. Okay, no one is gone is my favourite colour really have you not seen my hair in the plastic side. Yeah, yet definitely I go so is Indigo, not Indigo’s Tyrian purple all ideals, probably what you were thinking was purple. Yeah, and yet so coloured Indigo, but this one, there is a deep rich purple berries, a reason why this colour was so expensive and so like. Basically, you could only afford it. If you are royalty and and that is because of the weight was made, and because of the material comes from and an also because it is very particular shade of purple and so probably fairly generally, knowing that purple is like an imperial colour and ancient Roman symmetry laws. Yeah, yeah, like Apple being restricted to like imperial use and or to officials, like being able to have scripts of purple on their robes and so like a a lot people would think of ancient Rome, unlike Roman emperors when they’re thinking of the colour purple and but actually the reason why this purple, in particular, like Tyrian or imperial purple was the Imperial one and saving quite a lot of reading up on natural dyes over the past week and tell you plants that you get purple from and you can get from log went and which is the tree that resonator and you can get from a few different other plants, but in year the trade routes for these kind of guys hadn’t really been established. Yeah, so like we didn’t really know about them and plus the other dies, you can use berries like elderberries or blackberries. Other kinds of things to get purple and bring about Tyrian purple is it’s a lot more colourfast and like fast like it doesn’t fade with age. In fact, it apparently gets even richer, brighter, yeah, so that’s why it was so prized like it was. This is really deep cut is actually kind of deep magenta colour, then it’s a very red, purple, yeah, yeah, and Sega Avenue can get some of the other credibly tone herbals from mixing other dies as well. Over dying and but you can’t. You cannot get this Reds dark red, purple colour from anything else, and an conga.purple this colour and light fast as well and think of the colour is like super synthetic lake grapes flavoured stuff. Yeah, actually, is Ribena colour partner what my thinking of like Vimto a to Vimto is more the blue purple ends okay is very how to think of something natural that start exact purple is point yeah already naturally. Yeah, Ribena is a little bit more fake location motives. Ribena love and but also like yeah I do think the closest is like the packaging of something like grapes flavoured’s is is the colour of Tyrian purple establishing really hard to pin down colour, which is either specific shade was so prized right and and its called Tyrian purple because one of the centres of manufacture was the city of Tyre tyre lawyer DY Ari liked like attire like tyre and which is in modern day Lebanon, which at the time was finisher and, and, interestingly, and Venetia is the Greek name for 11 on area and it’s possible that the name Phoenicia means land of purple, because that’s where the Greeks were getting this die from. That’s a really pretty name then wrote also that, but I know the other way round. The alphabet is named after the concept of symmetric switches. Phoenicia different podcast we do, we do drive a lot of tangential ideas, focus three. Yeah, a lot of it, or interconnect, so Phoenicia was the centre of this this purple dye industry and in the ancient world and they they had had outpost across North Africa, where this was being produced as well. And so the purple dye comes from a particular kind of sea snail that lives in the Mediterranean and the Miramax sale and there are at least three species of this snail that all produce various different shades and kinder from magenta to like a dark purple and also to make a red one of them is our Tyrian red Triston, which was also an yeah so this was our this was highly prized in the ancient world, Charlotte was buried in a shroud and make Tyrian purple. Of course Charlie so was 1/9 century believe so kind of somewhat after eating Greece and Rome, and the manufacture of this die goes back to probably before 1000 BC and what we what we have found is the evidence of this is like a lot of the of the crushed snail shells and along the coastal areas of the Mediterranean, but the earliest evidence we have actual diet cells on material was actually discovered this year, which is impressive because it’s 20, 21, yet so we’ve already had some critical discoveries. And yet, note this. Okay, so this article that I got. This was published on the 28th of January 2021 and and it’s the discovery and of researchers in Israel and having found some fragments of wool fibres and in Israel, dating back to about 1000 BC, and so fragments of wool dyed with Tyrian purple, which is incredible. I didn’t expect the bike. This is much of a recent development in the case of Tyrian purple. All I know, I know weight is enlisted, you mean like the real, 20, one outline the amount of wool that they found and an I believe this is like the actual wool they found and it still purple. It’s still like recognisably purple incredible and decimate separate first known evidence of Tyrian purple via. So, I mean that that’s critical and possible that the use of this method of creating dye was known as early as long even some treat versus just so 2031 Superman colourless actual dyed material. We have an so it is an ancient process and and it went on much until the fall of Constantinople that that’s when you see it getting the awesome archaeology holiday. Amusingly was popular in an ancient reason ancient Rome and then the business served the technique of dying with the lyrics snail. But then, after the fall of the byzantine empire and not get dates. Can you remind you when are the four Constantinople was the 1450s, something thinking I’m so good and I can proceed to like the BA proper history podcast person and just say that day as if I you start so with the full of Constantinople in 14 to defeat and no one really no one really had the money or like to be bothered to continue making Tyrian purple and and that is because being a horrifically expensive die and an same so expensive that you could only afford if you are insanely wealthy basically Imperial and that being because you needed so many of the sales to make the die and the die comes from all this leaves within the shellfish and so you have to catch thousands of the shellfish and then have to extract the die. Now there are two ways you can do this and the best way which is not the way they did it in nature. Greece and Rome. Most the time is a much kinder way. So the first way and is that you basically annoy them predatory snails and among other things, and this that this gland where the substance that has the die in it and is used for like squirting at things and in that predatory behaviour if they get agitated or like you are angry, they’ll squirt out the die and kind of yeah. So basically you can even go bothersome snail and then put unless you are specifically from your professional self about which they are in one hacker Mexico, there is still I believe is sliding situation is of an milking sales in one hacker Mexico and and there’s an amazing Mexican documentary on this on YouTube. It’s got subtitles that I found out, which is this guy basically explaining how they do it and they go out onto the rocks and they collect baby finding snails and and its it’s a different species sales is not the same one that is in the Mediterranean, but it’s so it’s a test, different species, but it still has the purple dye and so they go out onto the rocks and they have to let Their because it takes so long and to like milk or the snail sale and they milk it, like me, snail, snail and pellet and squirts out the die and they put it straight onto the yarn that I the back and go find some sales and apparently it takes at 28 days for them to like re-in every game like remake there that I like refill by glad yeah and I make and they can view a car was so certain it is a method that doesn’t harm the sale and therefore doesn’t have the populations and butts as you might expect it. You cannot produce a lot of dyed material with this like the guy in a documentary were saying that even in its heyday, when the populations of the sale was a really good and they would do. Like, maybe five or six games of yarn in each trip of like you know a weeks camping or something. So yeah, it’s like their to sell more like a traditional practice and an invite to this documentary Dyson amazing shots of backstrap weaving with some of this purple young and something to that actually will be that the setup and first rate. Like, also doing that and nature world. The second way, which is the one that they used in the industrial production. This die is that you collect all the thousands of shellfish when you crush them and you need them to ferment and, yeah, yeah, apparently smells atrocious. Like awful and I feel like people, people might be a bit more used to smoke strong smells back in history, but like apparently even people at the site were like, no, this is rank wannabe around. Yeah. And so the way that Linney, the elder describes it, set it right remembered and so the process that only the elder describes and is that they less nice words were already making garam masala. Once one barrel, cementing slippage while our yeah so they they are crush the shells and then they take them the vein. There’s like they find a gland and that has the die and extractor, and then they, like Salter, leave it to steep and toilet. And then there’s a final involved to skim the liquor takes about 10 days and then you can diet that starts the process that he describes yet and then archaeological data also indicates that that they were left to decompose to like ferment and so we we can’t actually reproduce this method like no one has managed to be able to do it. To this day. We don’t know exactly how they did it. So he said that it kind of stopped after the full Constantinople because they get. It was too depleted by that point did the Ottomans just look at it and go when can do that. Basically, yes. On both counts. Like you might expect this absolutely decimated the murex population of the Mediterranean. And so, by this point, like even to this day. The snail is extremely rare in the Mediterranean, so they kind of ruined kind of use or the snail and which is one reason the Ottomans could trade with Asia. Currently, like they have their own sources of purple. Yeah, yeah, so that that’s another reason so it was basically that after the fall of Constantinople’s business lines were doing this you as a true tradition and go back to ancient Rome, but it was falling out of favour elsewhere because it was just so expensive, ridiculously expensive because of the about 10,000 of these snails just making up die for a trim for trimming your clothing and presumably getting more and more expensive as time goes on, is all what yeah the running snails. Yeah, so vote by this point late in 53 like is getting more and more difficult to even find the snails like no one’s really got the money any more. No one can be bothered with this basically are like those there’s no point and is a purple kind of goes out of history for a bit after that and, at least in their kind of European/Middle Eastern world and until the importation of purples from Asia and which is like a couple centuries later, the silk Road stuff presumably are and how you can get access to things like Lockwood, which can give you an bright colour fast purples and and in fact the mediaeval and Western world kind of moves on to get again, I’m not sure how this is pronounced but can this means at KE are MTS, Cisco must come in okay. Also known as vermilion or Scarlet, so that that particular Scarlet red, which was a hallmark of wealth in the mediaeval world and that takes over as the fancy colour which I believe is also why cardinals were read in the Catholic Church here because catholic priests like the fancy things. Indeed yeah so that the reason it it died out and and as I mentioned, the only place they really make this today is in Mexico and and is a very small-scale thing. So it absolutely while the whole entire concept of this is ridiculous and but then you know it’s interesting that it really a completely un-reproducible shade like the is the only way you can get this particular colour & estimate sense that people would do this but am yeah and we know we will. They were doing it in these massive quantities because we we found the remains of the industry, like the discarded shells which answer, for example, at Sidon, which is another Phoenician city and bears just the quantity of discarded shells created a mountain like 40 m high all this guy was worth more than its weight in gold studs are legitimate for all you that the scale of this industry, like it was with big and so even though this was a luxury good and there was very little that round it required this massive industry to sustain it so you know that, like when you don’t have emperors with massive amounts of personal wealth, as well as like a lot of taxpayers money page. No one, so that is the relatively brief but extremely wild history of the colour Tyrian purple is indeed extremely while there is a lot more is the movie I going bit more uncertainty. Suppose subjects more relevant to us today and example of how how I think we going forward need to kind of blend. These older ways of making things with the technology we have today because when you think about yeah the demand we have to Dave clothing and the like amount of people there are. If we were to go back to using completely natural dyes that would have a terrible effect on the environment because natural dyes need a lot of quantity of material compared to the thing you’re actually gonna die. And I mean most of them are not as a significant is the key Tyrian purple and but you still need generally about twice the amount of dyestuff to the material that you and I am so and you know in the past, this did have an effect on the environment like this mail is almost extinct today because of the demand for this die, and even 2000 years ago. So, yeah, and although the process of natural dyeing itself like the process is much more environmentally friendly. In the process of creating and most synthetic dyes and the actual dyestuff itself like that can be difficult to obtain, or like it could be harmful to the environment if we were to harvest a lot of it. I guess what you really need is a an end to satisfaction, galloping more environmentally friendly synthetic dyes the same time and as soon as possible. Like I think probably the way forward is like definitely am the process of synthetic dying needs to become a lot environmentally friendly and and I definitely think that there’s a lot of things from natural dyeing that we can incorporate into an into those processes and so perhaps going forward, and that the way might be to figure out their figure out how we can use like waste products as dies and all other anything and so I like like most things, I think it’s a combination of the old stuff and the new stuff. Words surprise compromise again and so before we go onto local Larder and if you want to suggest sold or just say hi and we have an email to podcast@gmail.com and we are Twitter at bread and thread so you can keep up with all the exciting things on their and take part in like the gas what the episode’s game that weekly avoids as Petrie on bread and thread if you want monthly recipes and access to a discord server and potentially at the tender, Latina, and as to make you your very own bonus episode I mod paper from polybag RPG ideas. We have a podcast if you like to hear RPG advice on how to use assorted incredibly bad ideas as actual ideas and natural game, then this is a polybag pocket available on pretty much everybody capture from bad so about some rabbit yes, so the exact origin unsurprisingly is kind of unclear and it’s thought to be a corruption of Welsh rabbits and assist recorded in 1725 and the we get rarebit by the 1780s, and a writer and mostly an antiquarian book of wonders, people does a bit of everything, called Francis, are gross, who refers to as Welsh rabbit and Welsh rarebit and two words in that case is generally agreed that rarebit is a corruption of rabbit, a, which is probably insulting the Welsh okay okay for because, like outside and I say, because as fine as I know, there’s no actual rabbit involved vegetarian bitch and the general consensus seems to be that it’s the Welsh people are either poor or stupid. So they make cheese on toast and call it rabbit because people were really mean to Welsh people for you to Welsh, so Welsh rarebit itself is generally leaks cheese, beer, mustered melt altogether poorer over toast and it is delicious. Yet there’s nowhere to go wrong with that and top tip actually does a Welsh cheese called Veni, and just why space CNN. I which has an ailing mustard already in it. So if you want to make a wet rarebit just really, really easily get the heart. I had actually we got some of my birthday and it is amazing. Would recommend like Go get yourself some installation. Yeah, and the dish itself probably developed from an and much earlier, saying don’t how early the probably mediaeval house pulled the witch is Welsh for Bates cheese and you basically you put the cheese up near the fire on the top of it melts and you scooped that off and put it on bread that is also toasted along lawyer with a toasting fork old. Wow. It’s like extreme cheese toasts Welsh fondue are an amazing, isn’t it interesting because you need quite hard cheese that a lot of Welsh cheeses are quite soft. Okay, but the some Tudor accounts of a hard use milk cheese being used, which I can imagine that being particularly good, actually, because use milk cheese can spill a bit nutty and another a map to teaser anything like the idea that like people all throughout history just been like yap toasted cheese good. There is something in the stereotype that I mentioned of whales being poor and especially. At that point, because yeah, England likes to just going to Wales and attack people and take all the good stuff. So a lot of Welsh people were very poor, and especially you know peasants who are poor everywhere, so something like that would be, especially if you can make some seasonings and endowed with like with the rarebit would just be a really nice comforting dish after a hard day likely row value working in yellow on the hills with the sheep or whatever and you go back into your little house, you get some hot cheese and some hot red and you put them together and just sit there and you eat it and everything is okay for a little bit our Hotmail QTs yeah yeah yeah so that there’s references from the late 18th-century of it being becoming a tavern meal thing that you would just wander into a pub in order something good pub food actually gets fairly simple to make and it goes good with beer. Irene Leggett said if you make it. If you make it right and start veering it and to interestingly against referred to various points and in various places as an English, Irish or Scots rabbit as well as Welsh and zoo referring to it as Welsh seems to come first came. There is also a variation called and book rarebit golden book, which is when it said was an egg interesting sounds. I can breakfast yeah, and apparently you can get in some places and especially places in the US with a large Welsh background to places like Appalachia and parts of Pennsylvania have a lot of Welsh ancestry can get rarebit source or rabbit source on a hamburger. In some places. Oh, wow, wow, that is a whole new dimension that would be quite good. Yeah, like a because the problem is like case so like the American cheese sauce, I think, is that it’s very good thing doesn’t have a lot of depth of flavour to it. Okay, another sort of the bright yellow Tex-Mex cheese sauce. I think you mean like I watch movies and I think if he thinks having it with rarebit would be really good and have to try that at some point, so that is a lot of information about what rabbit that’s basically all of the information that I could find about it and apart from that, it is mentioned in it is mentioned in a Tudor era joke book. So intertwined is one of the sort of forgotten the name and a scan of a shaggy dog story about an getting sick of living so many Welsh people in heaven. And because gods mean, I guess until simply to do something about it and he simply to goes outside the gates of heaven and says most partly is must to say is roasted cheese and another was before run out because they want to rarebit and then simply locks about heaven, so there’s that think I pick red overhead and is basically the same thing right really is all that is truly much all of the information that I can find about whilst rarebit by fantastic I love the rarebit burger idea. Oh, so yes, thank you for listening and will next time I think I will do some cherry laws. Next up, and now I realise that a lot of people properly don’t know what that is is a great idea and I like it will will have a good segue for one yeah, the Segway will be listening to the last one, and then will be back in a couple of weeks and I will tell you all about century laws by you you you

Bread and Thread – Tea

Hello and welcome to bread a Podcast about domestic history i’m liz

and I’m Hazel. We’re two friends who studied archaeology together and love history and also making things

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did learn that if you make brownie in a bundt cake tin you get late because I really like corner pieces, CLI could wedge the sake corner piece, but then as you go through it again really, really good research is the best of both were how all corner it all, but it’s still glory. And sometimes, pieces of dry are as Brownies. If you listen to this: make brownies in a bunt tin right now. Later that does it, just like one giant Brownie cut it up. To be fair, if you make it as a tray bake. It also comes out as one giant Brownie that you then cut up yer but what if you are, just take a bite. One is a pancake, if not a giant donor.

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Yeah, that was the real time sound of my mind being blown by the concept of Brownie do now at some point have to make like an actual doughnut batter and bake it in my bunk 10 just like how I think new baking a bunting seam bread being done in an adult site between bread and a cake to do this, solid, definitely. What have you been up to,

and so are + i.e. bragged about my passionfruit and so I actually save the skins and I am I tried dying because I got interested in natural dying, been interested for a while. I can really bothered so sensibly, like the interest will build up until I have an impetus to actually do the thing so because I very rarely have passionfruit because I live in England and I was like I should like to your n see what hello. This makes an well what I got was like page pointing yet was not inspiring. It definitely works like it’s gone a different wall when different colour so encouraging and maybe that was bad. Book a natural dying, so watch this space is very exciting. Yeah, and I really wish I dying with road because it doesn’t turn blue until you left out of the dye pot and expose its oxygen and then it just magically goes blue, meeting you did say you planted some world to try and die with ideas, and then am the country that was like lapping the soil just kind of get over there, but it’s like there’s like Godzilla, comfrey all-rounder and there’s only like three forward, so hoping they’ll spread a bit and also my motivation gardening is very fleeting, so I basically funded and I was like okay, done in developing the senses really cold rate now. Yeah. And so, you know, suitably it’ll still be there and I can see from I think maybe I shouldn’t have fun. I should have planted it in them parts first, then transferred it because my problem was I liked Doug over the grounds and and then which took ages and then just planted it. But the problem was there were lots of seeds for various things already in that soil, and so when things like coming up. I couldn’t tell what what was woad and what wasn’t was difficult sentenced literature trying to say that’s a true tongue to Mr which is apparently also one yeah silent know what to weed out and what to leave Sinai just have a lot of light, but they don’t want some weed think that time, I would like greater bit first member at the men, so I know what to take out but going Monday to speaking of Segways tried to get their tea. Excellent, yet I know what they say any specific kind of tea or just like the realm of tea and focus on the classic camellia census, which is the black is black to okay air long floaty classic teams go so like the same species. They’ll come from the same plant. Technically, if it isn’t camellia’s analysis entity saying, and that includes that is a different plant, a hero. I always thought it was the same plant, just like a red version robust tea which I’m never sure how to say betting is rooibos and comes from a South African plant called Slim Yaris okay and really census and my will to guess from the name comes from China. Or at least that’s variables like Southwest China to bear north in India, zoning the T-zone. People found in China and we named it, so it’s consensus and superhighway city tend to come under. There’s like words that sound like tea and was that sound like shy, and I found this great map which basically illustrates the if that he spread through land-based trade routes tends to be a shower or a cheap child and then if it was through, and shipping lanes tends to be a tea. I see interesting way become different. See some of China’s very big and contains different languages. Just Mandarin Chinese, and in one of these languages and more inland. It was char and in a coastal one. It was take so it is purely just getting it from slightly different Chinese people. Although circle. I wonder if it could explain my dad who like talks about tea all the time. But then, specifically whenever it is making tea after like a really long task describes it as a cuppa chart into its common for older British people to call it char, and probably because of British colonialism in India game. It’s of evolving from Charlie and the middle-class calling it that, because they got from India. Therefore, it was child or Che or something in that zone and this is calling it tea getting it through more through an the East Indies from front and Java, that kind of region visits. It is a very good demonstration of the thing. I’m not very good at explaining verbally, apparently, and so do know either of the self supposedly origins of tea. There’s a Chinese one, and there’s an Indian one. I think I know the Chinese one, and the story is like there was a princess who was doing something out in the gardens. I can’t remember what involved, like water and a leaf from the tree above her fell into her cut and an was delicious. Basically yeah, it’s sometimes as a princess and sometimes it’s an M probe are based drinking just hot water was a thing in ancient China is supposed to be healthier than drinking cold water and the Indian one is a grocer and the story goes that am principle did, the founder of Zen Buddhism vowed to meditation nine years without sleep towards the end of the nine years he fell asleep. I know You were so angry that he tore rough as eyelids and threw them to the ground and tea plants growing up the sake little bit like eyelids. I guess that there is an absolutely horrific story that is entirely horrific. Kind of love it. I do like it more than the Chinese one. Just because it’s like makes sense like I can see how that would happen, just like the heartache. Yeah, it is interesting that its Zen bodice snow supposedly December that took tea to Japan. I came so there’s a Chinese book called the charging which is just which is about and basically considered the definitive text on key for the time and its author was known as the T. St and yet based on this book. The tea ceremony was developed which was then exported to Japan by Buddhist missionaries. How like a lot of a lot of Come think of the word, but you know when and something originates in in one culture and then goes to another and then kind of ends up getting transferred back to the first one again that it different, and then so-and-so, love cross pollination against other interestingly apparently the Buddhists reusing it using tea to stay awake during meditation guesses. If you don’t have coffee at the most caffeinated caffeinated yeah, but I just love that because I can entice back to the story scoring malinger helps to stay awake out of his own islands. Yeah, best not to think too much about that part to the first European to write about tea was an saw missionary and a Portuguese one, who visited China and the writing ability at this period took the 1500 is a bit odd, so there’s always rumours about this mysterious drink and possibly the salting the leaves and eating them after boiling them need some salty leaves. I don’t like salad worse than selfish on the same level as British people trying to eat potatoes roaring when the first mate small as well be hard to beat it with a spoon salty spindly think it would have got popular probably not know about because of something that is just so commonplace to the day and the thing that our ancestors in the Westlake absolutely no crook what exotic Eastern beverage makes its way to to the west through Dutch traders and public code of the East India Company, there was a Dutch one as well. Yeah, yeah, they have a lot to do with the spice trade as well. Yeah, we will absolutely do not sit on spice was because that is a whole pain. There’s a lot of background and beer drinking tea as an elite activity spread very quickly from Holland and got popularity in Britain, though with Garp and Catherine began the remember her from Forks. And yes, she was Portuguese tells a second of England, who she married a grab in Holland so they introduced tea to Britain as well. Basically, a 17th-century influencer, absolutely immune at this point the Royal family basically are influences what what they do. Everyone else does. There’s the story about Wiggs becoming popular because the King of England was bald and takes everyone I started wearing words, the witch King is and it’s also probably exaggerated, but it sits ahead of the story, and I was one thing alone in this podcast. It’s as it’s a good story, then can spread absolutely, you know, probably should PSU got the Dutch East India company and then the British one gets set up afterward very quickly establishes a tea factory in Macau, which is yet on the coast of China. Yeah and yeah, just keep spreading through a combination of very dodgy trade because colonialism and also just regular colonialism, but those appeal for story and this one probably is true about the British East India Company and busy trying to find out where tea actually comes from the can end this Chinese enough so the TV cameras. The British tea committee in the mid-1800s, sends Robert Fortune undercover to China well defined process. I think her particular one, but essentially somebody smuggling tea out of guy, but this is a bad guy and superbug Chinese tea experts okay and then you have in the 1820s and large quote marks here discovering and tea bushes growing wild in Assam and Darjeeling words which may ring a bell if you like tea and combining that with this knowledge to setup and tea estates in India and Indian team was became a lot more popular than Chinese tea in Britain again. Outside, he was already like the tea plant was already in India, but people just went drinking on the problem is most of the accounts. We have our by employees of the British East India company came so like a said the word Discover certainly a choice that was made by British people doing capitalist colonialism. I feel like I can applies a lot of the subtext, yeah, yeah, they they found the tea and then there when I know, let’s grossing tea that HMRC was, yeah, that’s the basics of how to got to Britain, but I think I do have to mention. And yeah, I’ve been learning about tea, grading, and it’s a lot so I’m receiving. That’s when you separate butties into like this is the best TEM versus the ability yeah so you have an OP which is an essential orange pico, which is basically this is a whole decent leaf. That’s what you tend to get in looseleaf verses and teabags, which tends to be the lower quality stuff and then can be described as things like flurry golden flurry to peak golden which are all those ourselves, increasing quality and to peak golden is just the very tip of the leaf charm is its tip and top is unlike the name of the character really does add so young sir aren’t untagged of all must yeah try to foist from Gussie think nothing, but she doesn’t combining different letters and to make the different grades and the very very best tea is F TGF, OP, and which, apparently, there’s vacant inside joke among tea aficionados that it stands for far too good for ordinary people can basically sticker be in front of any of those to just say it was like that. But worse as the loser broke, I guess. So where when you get this magical perfect tea makers are available to to find it on any of the places that I buy tea from, but I am in the player Harrods or something. Yeah, that if anyone has a tips on the far too good for the people to try led in learning a lot about tea and which TZ like an subtle differences between different kinds I want, try very, very good tea that your life is an so depressing about the tea, especially green tea is seen as a very healthy thing, especially things like antioxidants get thrown around a lot. I use the green tea boxes all the time like detox or antioxidant like anything says that troop meeting does have more antioxidants and all of the good things and so basically the colour, the colour tea, self, and green why blue, black, and describes how oxidised it is okay to green tea is has been oxidised all contains all of the good stuff are okay. So back to you, been dried or oxidised rather than dried to an OT lease. The certainty that that we would buy in a shop are dried. Oh yeah, okay, and the years. It’s an double check that I think double check yeah and Tis except the leaves are exposed to hotair and they oxidise in similar way to like. If you burn something it oxidises just left cell because it hotair and so green is pretty much not oxidised and then white is a little bit and then glue, which is a long and describe a semi oxidised and then black is just a it looks like that because the oxygen has done its thing. Okay, and I don’t really understand how antioxidants work, but if you oxidise the thing has fewer antioxidants, which makes sense like in my brain because of the words that I don’t really understand cannot account. Yeah, you know, in word sense… Once Slough will also have a lot of as well to be fair, as a kind of folk medicine we have, to same site, herbal teas and yeah think the reason that they tend to be referred to as teas to St as one because people know what he is, but also to same tends to be much more like medical herbalist kind of way with everything to it like that if I offer you a nettle to same the same stuff, but one of them sounds I can try to cure you of something and the other one sounds nice drink. Yeah, I really provides anything that is made by putting a plan in hot water as a team, right, and Mike only learned what to say no like a couple years ago, one thing that I Wanna mention the four error as I realise I talked a lot and to tea is made generally from the leaves of the community access, but there’s also to teacher of vulture tea, which is made of the stems and twigs lush. Wow, was. Actually I currently have some because every a subscribe to tea subscription box and the semi-sunken future in my box of February and is honestly lemonade. Honestly, like the those most was kind of an astringency to it, and the mega sweetness green tea, but it yeah’s complex tea complex is like not just believe you can drink the whole planet entirely drinkable. Having come across the route being used, but I bet you can use the roots while tea is amazing before his doesn’t look louder. Wanna say that we have a Petrie on and just read the thread. There is a patron exclusive server where we talk a lot about crafts and food and things and there’s monthly recipes and if you subscribe at $10, pounds et cetera and will make a bonus episode just for you. I mod paper from polybag RPG ideas. We have a podcast if you like to hear RPG advice on how to use assorted incredibly bad ideas as actual ideas are natural game, then this is a polybag pocket available on pretty much everybody capture from a bad day so actually my local other today is accidentally relevant because it supported very short one because, like almost all of the information I could find a message in Portuguese and I don’t speak Portuguese, and so there is pretty light on history side, but I just, I just want you to know that this exists. We specifically you specifically and also everybody else am I now assume your project using a is not a header before probably wouldn’t very well known outside Portugal and so this from my was thinking about fish and chips and a Y Wanderers like that. There tends to be a version of fish and chips. Most places around Europe so close on hours like I wonder how different fish and chips is around different places and and so this is because it has to be properly regional. You know I can’t just be like for the country because it’s local at the actual regional food within country, so this is from the Portuguese city of Jabal, and which is on the closed and it south of Lisbon. How about Lisbon and by not as well-known as other places in Portugal because there is not as much money as there is in Lisbon the moment and so it’s not as popular. Like touristic and that it been. It had a very strong fishing industry and basically forever, and the centre of fish canning in the 19th century, which can eat and so they have a very famous regional food. Those very associated with city. It’s called chocolate Frito, but it would have chocolate in it right to our media saw its price. Chocolate yeah cuttlefish okay by cuttlefish and it yeah. Apparently they like oil because of this, with some herbs and garlic and marinate it in white when vinegar and then like covering cornflour and riot that does sound delicious cuttlefish, squid, and is nigh. I feel like it would be tasty and nominally served with a lot of fries like them crispy chips or rice or something and on like you can have it as I can side just on its own. And so, yeah chuckle. Frito is an and I decided love the concept of this famous cuttlefish thing because I had cuttlefish being eaten before, but makes that this is just in Britain, your main exposure to the concept of cuttlefish is that weird how things are put in the cages. Yeah, sometimes you find on the beach and you’re like, what is that so and so is an and in such about their is there is a restaurant that serves it. There is also a small museum to the history of cuttlefish K museum to girl. Yeah I the problem with researching the road trip is expanding places you can get this apparently because those so famous and in fact so popular, but it is kind of a local icon now and there are statues of it been able to dish. I don’t know. I haven’t been able to find any pictures of the statues I die. Just know that there are geography dose that you statue cuttlefish (again specific dish is probably you cuttlefish related, probably, I dunno, please, if you listen to this and your Portuguese and you know what the geography dose that you look like, send us a picture. Yeah, we need this. I need to see. Yeah so and so kind of linking into the R went when Joe deals, I mentioned that most of the eels used for this iconic British London East End. This come from Denmark or Collins alike. Yet somewhere there is Britain, and so they do selfish cuttlefish Jabal and but they had a small, now the big ones anymore, so the big ones that they used to actually India and also connections kind of the LR places that have this really popular historic food is like no overfishing over production of this thing and means that it’s is not able to completely make the students of anyone since its definition to think on yeah yeah and related thoughts. As you might say that. Anyway, I decided just wanted to talk about your graffito because I now know the exists and could not keep that race and myself and I’m glad it didn’t. And here is if you have an episode suggestion or want to say hi or want to send us pictures of statues of fried cuttlefish and mill bread thread podcast@gmail.com. At worst, on Twitter, bread and bread, so check out or pictures and links and bangs and updates on when those come out and also me posting hints as to what the next episode will be because I like doing that I get and we will see. Next, you are

Bread and Thread: Therese de Dillmont’s Encyclopedia of Needlework

hello welcome to bead and thread a podcast about food and domestic history i’m liz

And I’m hazel we’re two friends who studied archaeology together and love history and also making stuff. So what you been up to this week

recently so I bought a patent from revelry. Cannot remember the name of the designer, but I will tweet a link to it. It’s called embrace octopus. This proper all tiny octopus on a jumper and my tentacles go around the body and round their arms and staff. I know that pattern I’ve been like lusting after for six years. I am so excited to make this. I’m also very excited at that guy is also an eye forgotten her name, but the one of the teachers apartments archaeology and she made you as the one who did the and GIS stuff at one I came name but and yet I coded Prof with the octopus jumper. It was great. And yet that is fighting a besotted I have an, said of the way through the torso. It’s come under the name of the thing is not good words today. The thing where you like, attach the sleeves to the body while you’re knitting the yoke.

Okay, so I’m getting there. Tentacles are developing again into the Tesco’s. Yeah, it’s having done colour work for a while quite something akin to it. I need to. I think picture in the patreon discord oh HR.com/read and dredged what been working on and I made a passionfruit and dark chocolate hearts, that sounds amazing is the fanciest desert I have ever made so serious. Definitely this one is smooth and sensual habits like holding up myself and I was like, make a very fancy thing and I have baked in a while so it was like a the out of the magazine, which by the way and get 33 library and am it’s got the care chocolate pastry base with cocoa powder in then a passionfruit curd and then and chocolate – and for oats like like a mouth slows, and good is pretty rich by making us worked out and it was supposed to be, but it was why. And then, after being the fridge for a while normal is a dark, dark ganache. Okay, there’s more cocoa in it against thicker and denser. Just Wanna put in more cream or use less cocoa. We chocolate if you want thinner AC go you how dialled many ganache as the white chocolate ganache and everything is that as a hard harder. Technically, no cocoa in white chocolate right since it is not chocolate a lot harder to work with white chocolate ganache was like blueberries is very good. Good thinking, passionfruit clay quite fancy and exotic me was really nice and by that kind of tiny flavour with the sweetness of the chocolate that was really good.

So thinking you could probably make and it would have the same light make as big Russia might make others next year.

Yes, so that that is perhaps amazing, so this is one of our book episodes. I believe it is indeed feels for this one is not a book I have again inspired and spread as much as bread a lot of stress involved in so about and to raise the Dell months Encyclopaedia of needlework, published in 1886 and encyclopaedia. Yeah, I really honestly like there is very a lot in this book and and it is it deserves its aim, so I actually first saw this book in a radio second-hand bookshop and and it looks like I was interested in newer times had a look, but I just kind of seems like you know, really old and we tie and now that bit more interested in like historical methods of doing things down a washable and don’t worry because it is quite was very popular in its day am and there’s a lot of them around so I don’t think it would be too difficult to get hands on one. If you wanted one and also as I discovered when I was looking looking up at this book, there is a copy on project bag available for free, so if you’re at all interested in anything that I suck. Then you can just go and find and read yourself. And there’s all of all of the images are reproduced as well is really good. I think it’s one of the original edition because, as we will find out and there were many, many additions going right up into the mid 20th century recent yet far outlived it of and because it was just so comprehensive and it really hit at the right moment as well. When this was published in the late 19th century and there was a real a real fashion for decorative needlework and I guess kind of similar to how those revival of craft anything, stay and but this time. There was just so much more availability of like different kinds of threads. Different colours like materials and had before and plus a lot of people had more leisure time, so it was an needlework as a hobby was really popular and at the time so talking makes the backend of the arts and crafts movement right yeah yeah kind of 18 70s 80s started 1860s and then went on for a little bit and yeah so that plus the infamous Victorian fashion for decorating literally everything in your house somehow meant that this this is a really popular book and an although there were a lot of other kind competitors. The time it out for various reasons, so Terry is the Dell months and was an Austrian writer. She was born in the town of been obliged in 1846, which is just south of the and and she was also of a professor of architecture at the military academy there and her mother had the fantastic name of Francisco spending time that it is not relevant anything is safe because excellent, so she educated as a governess and a teacher and BN are and as part of education she so needlework and got really interested in it, and she may have attended the needlework school that was founded by Empress. Eraser and in committing century and I’m certainly she was a close friend of the director of the school and for most of her life. So she ran an embroidery shop in Vienna while with her sister and selling just embroidery materials, signed patterns and but it was after she started a partnership with the company DMC that her career really took our and this interesting story because she was like a real career woman the time and so she had moved to Switzerland for an and she she had her own embroidery school that an but she also started working for the company, DMC, and which stands for Dolcis make a company right, but better known as DMC, which is still in business today and is very, very well-known as probably the most famous maker of cotton embroidery threads I think my embroidery starter set was DMC. Yeah, that would describe it some bare best still going strong, and then the moment I think because of the resurgence of craft into and everyone stuck inside with nothing else to do, and they still do make make their patterns and things down just Dell and their materials. They also yeah right from the start were so driving sales by doing patterns and designs and techniques, and so are DMC published her book the encyclopaedia, needlework, and they were based in Alsace, which interestingly is in Germany this time. And because it did become part France until after what yeah, that’s, that’s a whole geopolitical that the French German company. I guess I’m not I’m not like that. Well read on Alsatian history and the dog. I know nothing. I know less about the Alsatian textile industry.was.though yes, okay. Several known and well so she contract with DMC to write for them and she published an over hundreds or early were attributed to the heart of anything at the same name as much about later and most famous is the insight with BDO needlework published in six and and Wigan have little victory of it and am but I just do one talk about and how this partnership ended quite interesting, so the book was really, really popular. It’s had many reprints. It was translated into 17 languages and unclear. This next because there were the chain of embroidery like need workshops opened under her name in Vienna, Paris, Berlin and London and some something some biographies. I looked at and kind of say that they were high shops and then others may show found says they were opened by DMC under her name, but she does seem to be quite involved in the running of the way because she was happening between them since franchise yeah, and at this point had name was basically a brand and in fact when she got married in 1880. Nine DMC really did not approve were quite out, she changed the name and and the name was the brand so they yeah they were not happy about that and photo. She died only a few months later and her niece to had the same name over the job, but in the nieces contract it was. There was a clause that said she wasn’t allowed to get married at intonation because the name was brand idols and all the OD embroidery idle’s amazing dispersal, amazing yellow and working great but just illustrates the extent of which she was well-known at the time. I mean, this was all over the place and that’s why you can. If it’s quite easy to pick it up into graduates and so the self and I think the addition that some Guttenberg’s either the additional original 1991 and because of the prices, so the tradition cost three shillings, where it is not massively expensive. I mean, probably the people who can be most interested in fancy work are likely middle/classes and who the middle classes who have like a middle-class lady has a lot more leisure time and then someone would probably employ a middle-class lender to do it by Biba or have someone make them for them. Although it was also a popular hobby among the and so, like I buy would say that they repeat it the hobby purposes as well. Whereas a middle-class lady make you looking to do it at two look fancier but didn’t have the money to pay for the real professionals and having said that an it wasn’t, like, totally out of reach something working-class women could have afforded Madine on a whim and but given the average 80 feet. The average wage and at that time for a western man and was about 6 pounds a year and this is in regular employment and which, according to my calculation, how 16 shillings a week, maybe the pending auto review is’s wife on as a birthday present something so something that might be considered a worthwhile investment and for a weapon, thus woman because it does contain information on plain selling as well, amending and yet also something you do to close that little bit more fancy when you got time for another reason that an she became so well-known because, like a lot of people, and in fact it was reprinted after it was still reprinted and added to and the 20th century there were even iron on transfers that were added to the book, which is while holds yeah I don’t. I don’t know, like when they first became a thing. And but the book went on that they were a guess so and so was so popular. Up until then, I imagine they would take out some of the more Victorian-ish things and and on the title page is an illustration of an angel with the motto and you know Victorian memos and the matter is, like, I don’t know so this is right, but it’s 10 10 we feel a magnum Exeter opus, which apparently means from one fine thread work of art is born like that is the same kind of vein as the mighty oaks from little acorns grow so it’s an extremely comprehensive book and kind of set apart and some of its competitors. At the time because they would be especially the ones publishing in English would be focusing more on English styles of embroidery, whereas the yeah and this included a lot of continental styles and also an segments on Chinese embroidery Campbell work from India and Turkish embroidery. So, like a lot of different styles and bring from all over the world just looking at the chapters I can median lace Venetian. This Brussels lace timbre work managed it yet’s incredibly thorough, there’s a lot a lot of things. I don’t know whether or not these were no “authentic and like embroidery instructions, but they certainly represent an the way that certain styles became popular in different cultures and you know people like the idea of this thing and then and yea change that little bit in with what they were doing represent an interest in, and different kinds of techniques to raise an appropriation that what is called Chinese embroidery in a Victorian needlework manual doesn’t represent like all of Chinese embroidery, but rapidly not. Definitely represents a an interest in, and in people who are doing this embroidery in the West at the time in that kind of style and so yeah, let’s take a it starts with the instructions for plain selling and she has some comments to make on the place of hand sewing in the 8% which are quite interesting, so the sewing machine is is going good at this time but not everybody has one and but it is starting to become, but is starting to become not uncommon to have one in the home and so she says many on opening the encyclopaedia, needlework body disposed to exclaim, as they read the heading of this perception. What is the use of describing all the well-known stitches when machines have so nearly superseded the slower process and sewing to this our reply is that all kinds of needlework. Plain sewing needs to be most thoroughly learned as being the foundation of all those who are able to employ others to work for them should at least know how to distinguish good work from bad and those who are in less fortunate circumstances have to be taught how to work themselves. She’s got a point. Has indeed basics and New Haven today because of the technologies we still use hand sewing for the things like finishing techniques, things that you just can’t get machine to do so, yeah, I batteries so she has a bunch of sections at Sears and Hemmings seems all the basics of an but as this book is more aimed at hobby market, there is a lot on various kinds of fancy work and is not just an sewing, needlework at this time also encompass crochet and knitting, so there’s a section crochet work and there’s a section on knitting tapestry and then embroidery gold embroidery white embroidery and openwork and cut work, netting, macramé testing, Irish lace, which is kind of needle lace and and also Irish crochet, which is really amazing. Some, it’s like a silo crochet with very refined read where you there, like 3D motifs like flowers and even games nurse of net backgrounds and and… Incredible as a hasn’t heard of several of the things you listed down have to look at the Guttenberg I know. I mean I I don’t know them all very lower netting bezel. Interestingly, there’s a lot of instructions on how to make different kinds of lace and both in session, a edging race and and collars and things than I think that’s possibly because a lot of these kind of stuff that these races are intended for, like millions and am underwear night wearing stuff and was still often being made at home time and the lace is a way that you can make it fancy as personalisation as well as know you don’t want to to know that everyone else has the same stuff as you. Especially making it yourself. Definitely yeah, and if you got the time and is your hobby and your other option is having boring, plain underwear, then it’s a very no-brainer and someone with so substantial breast i.e. have a lot of feelings about nice-looking underwear that is entirely fair and so I really like this. This DIY underwear crediting like it’s quite tempting races now and attached, which is very Victorian, and she also includes instructions in the back for washing lace at washing, stiffening, ironing and thinning, and she makes an interesting distinction between ordinary lace and real lace by which I think she means, machine lace versus handmade lace handmade is the real race.

Yeah I think so. OG being yeah the real deal.

And so, yeah, it is comes in a time when as well hand work is starting to be something that you do for pleasure rather omit machinemade stuff is more available and cheaper. So to save time. It is just a lot easier and so doing, like fancy stuff by hand is now hobby pastime and so yeah impending out the lace and she says that if it’s machinemade base, you can just iron it benefits like real lace, then you got to pin out, I assume because it’s more delicate seals to me that the machinemade would be more delicate, but that might just be me being used to 21st-century manufacturing yet, so this is the real Metallica them and eBay. I would think that because the Beijing and have the kind of delicacy of machine work to work with the refined read and I know if you know about an 1880s machine lace then please do let me know okay practice at about lace. Yeah, I think appreciation lace recently. Look at Ian Rabbi and not any more and I really have come around to it does have its place. I think the premise because when when you think about Lacey think about my doilies weird like lampshades with lace around for no good reason, that does get really dusty yeah and relics about Victorian decorate everything mania and but there are amps some photographs in this book of the crochet lace patterns, and they are absolutely beautiful. In particular, there is an incredible lace collar and it looks kind of like those really fancy at 17th-century ones, and that are often in paintings like this really fancy white lace against the black puritanical type clothing and its the it’s is just so beautiful and have to put up some pictures and yet it does kind of making theatre different light. So there’s a really interesting methods and for changing the patterns like transferring them, extending more and or sizing them up or down and say that there’s one here to transpose and repeat patterns by means of looking glasses. So yeah. And so this is when your trainer adapter pattern to the proportions of your table runner or your rug or your whatever you’re making and you used to unframed mirrors and put them as angles to each other and so that you reflect the pattern and and then you can even use this to make the pattern into a corner and see what you need to do or to serve reflect a repeated pattern and see how it joins and its really describe this without like looking at the illustrations so am yet and you’re still investing to give it a go and and have a look in the practical directions chapter of the book and the illustrations and that yeah it is really cool and so she often also includes an crochet lace and there’s knitting are so in the cold work is another nice little quote to gold workers in with gold thread yet and so cold. Work is an bunch of different materials, say use of gold thread and often it’s raised so it can collect some work where you like pad out the base and then stitch over it so I can build 3D and you could various of gold-ish leather that you can use in various different materials and and it was quite popular in 18th-century as well and as she mentioned so she says, after the present time, dating from the end of the 18th century gold embroidery has been almost exclusively confined to those who made a profession. Amateurs have seldom attempted what it was commonly suppose required an apprenticeship nine years to attain any proficiency in while seems like a long time to just get good at something.

Yeah, becoming experts is a good and any proficiency in Baltimore embroidered all nine years. Your baby gear.

Yeah, so this is also representative of that shift from professionals to hobby amateur. A lot of these professions is very specific professions are dying out at this stage, and because they can’t really compete in the their economy, where mass manufactured goods are available late. No one can afford their stuff anymore except the superrich people, then there’s not a lot of outrage so and people who would specialise in these kinds of embroideries so I can 18th-century they would have embroidery workshops and some of them would specialise in a certain thing and they would just do that professionally and so if you could afford, you wouldn’t like you in bother China do-it-yourself because it’s like a professional thing and but now no one can really mean they were making a lot of money in first place and but you people have any afford to sustain this profession. Any and so it kind of goes into the amateur like copy kind of world. And as with a lot of other things. And so she says, but now when it is the fashion to decorate every kind of fancy article whether leather plush velvet with monograms and ingenious devices or descriptions. The art of gold embroidery has revived and is being taken up in practice, with success, even by those to whom needlework is nothing more than an agreeable recreation. We trust that the following directions and illustrations will enable our readers to dispenser the ideas training which even now expert in the art. Consider necessary so that humble brag. Yeah, a lot of things of that era. Just read like that, just because of how people wrote this yeah talking, talking around logo even by those of needlework is nothing more than an agreeable recreation embroidered the phrase an agreeable recreation anything that you call an agreeable recreation becomes recreation of semi-fine needlework and agreeable recreation by like even if you’re not professional with my book, you can do this yeah thing. I just prefer interpreting. You can do it, and the instructions do seem quite the diagrams are pretty good, like the pretty pretty well laid out and the instructions are little bit of that in the usual manner can and where I think they’re assuming at least some sewing competence and mother will teach you yeah say like pretty much every every woman time knew how to so and more or less so latest is assuming like a familiarity with them with a lot of the pictures, but then she does include a lot of like that. She started the beginning. And so it kind of is aimed at the beginner as well. This is nice having that saucepans against what is why it was popular for so long as the state. This is for everyone. Yeah, and it’s quite, it’s the tone of it is repeatedly weight is unsurprising, teach over and it is very teacher Labour not condescending. It’s kind of, you can do the thing just listen carefully and so like that. Yeah, one from an instructional text was written by someone who actually was really interested in every kind of needlework and knew what she was about to expect from someone whose profession was teaching needlework, but given that this was published by an company DMC, it does put a lot of the products like all of the recommended suppliers DMC thread so be quite tricky. Your trying to follow the Russians because obviously a lot of these materials make anymore so you could hang figure out what the modern is just a different DMC product find something that is similar and thickness or whether you need an MA might differ in material like what it’s made of 30 also includes an embroidery pattern, something designs and ideas do. It’s just some really good book and is looking throughout found things I would make techniques that was like riding about. So, like it still is race of the test of time because if you are somebody who just wanted to learn how to so like mending stuff your modern clothes. This would tell you how to do it like it shows you how to do dining and mending house on button switches the same thing that you do today. And yeah, it’s this handy and is not to like 19th-century, you know it’s not indecipherable, so journey into monsters like the video of needlework, which you can find unprotected to back our link in the footer and in the discord was interested in that and I’m pleased if you if you get into this as much as we have. And you try something out that those in the spectra and so tank is listing and is said, we have a patriotically one helpers host the show. All helpers get these sorts of books and picture.com/friend thread. You can also email at Reading gus@gmail.com if you have any ideas things that we should all knew just when I send us a picture of your amazing crochet lace or if you want email, you can tweet us and also just bread and thread and will talk to. Next you are you you

Bread and Thread – Can Openers

Then said a podcast about food and domestic history. I’m Liz

and I’m hazel we’re two friends, who studied archaeology together and love history,

so before we do the making and baking this episode is about can openers because of bean dad for insert midwinter celebration here I got Nick a brewing kit.

Wow,

so we currently have some bitter ale in a big bucket to turning into beer in the kitchen you have life in your kitchen

we’ve named it Steve at the suggestion of pencil from probably bad.

And when would one get to taste Steve’s juices.

Theoretically, it should be done tomorrow because our house is not a consistent degree Celsius because that would be incredibly expensive and might take a few extra days. The kit came with a hydrometer so I can keep an ionic excellent yeah that was a can also calculate the ABV, which is very exciting because I liked science and a lot more like efficient and high-tech.

My brewing process which is just like put sugar and yeast and fruit in bucket leave sometime hope there is alcohol,

We did third dump everything in a big plastic bucket saying that you hydrometer is useful see though how much they can have before your drunk and also so that you know it’s done, especially since we were planning to save some of it for the after times, whenever that is so beautiful to be able to like inform other people how got locators we have. Steve plans sounds very ominous, but I just been trying to make medium stuff think they can also find something we can make beer with a sourdough starter and you know we have one of those so that there would be a fun experiment.

Okay yeah whole new world of alcohol.

We have Steve plans sounds very ominous, but I just mean trying to make need and stuff are fighting made me think Nicholson found something we can make beer with a sourdough starter and you know we have another okay, so there will be a fun experiment yeah whole new world of alcohol. It is the classic because Baker’s used to give growers select leftover yeast or starter and stuff like that to make their beer in the deal. Delays, yeah.

In turn, connected through sharing yeast and it developed into one of the most important industries aggressive today and Marmite industry.my just a duiker date yet. I read a lot of people don’t. I for one devoted admirer which now I think about it like there’s absolutely no reason that I should. Apart from, I dunno, I just like something deep inside me likes the Marmite

unrelated that we seem to be a tendon spiral and cats really like yeast apparently that’s why they steal bread like the smell of yeasts and no one give a.

I’ve never felt more related to them right now I get something we can all enjoy the smell of fresh bread science, let us know and I finished the hat and I can’t remember if I had finished last time and I work on this jacket and and all things a fair amount of and things because that’s very satisfying right now and and I think my next project will be making a dress form because I have a little bit of an Christmas money and bootstrap dress forms are apparently and fairly relatively cheap to make, so I may go down that road, and finally have a dress form and I can drape thing, so anyone who doesn’t know and bootstrap bootstrap – or just check and yet I could fashion and so you can send all of your measurements and they will send you like a custom pattern progress once they have made yourself. Although you have made yourself. And so, like you do need to have sewing machine and make now discern stuff and but for that reason, it is a lot more affordable than buying a custom-made dress form like from what that’s already made and so I’m coming ago and was the height/all yeah I kinda feel like I can actual person who sews things now. I am so really know Joe, but you make me look like I know I’m happy dress for my room. Plus I can dress it up in things and put it right in front of the door get people if you have a home alone you resorted.

Hence, yeah, but I could just, you know: also says no. They also said a can openers arrears. When this goes up. This will no longer be a thing people are talking about the moment with topical where the tower topical where we record not necessarily when the gazelle but you know account, so do you explain the whole being. Dad situation for anyone who doesn’t live on the Internet

basically and Internet and musician John Roderick spent six hours telling his daughter to figure out how to use a can opener, rather than teaching how to use a can opener and there turns out there’s bad parenting dad trended on Twitter for two days so the first notable thing to happen on the internet

years off to start. certainly is taking the Socratic method way too far. Like it’s a technique for helping people learn that late until the child doesn’t eat the six hours. I mean, it’s not like that that kind of teaching method is not saying I will just figuring out it’s like helping the right questions in order to guide somebody towards something the teacher to cook because she will burn the house down and I drove the car. Figuring out: sometime anyway fluids and Internet trivia aside and tell openers to openers what everyone a call at the two also opening food sealed in a special metal container and yeah so that you, there’s never one when you one absolutely up, but I really thought much about their history before so I’m interested

so I will talk about can food another time. Can anyone adjust focus on the opener. This tank is a surprising amount to say it might be a lot and basically tinned foods originally was basically opened with a hammer and chisel, including yet instructions actually on cans of food, saying coach cut round the top near the outer edge with a chisel and hammer like this was the expected method that this poem the cans were heavier than the food inside them because it was the leg late 18th and early 19th century okay and how it was a relative English think is mostly for the military. At this point and we didn’t have industrial warfare servers relatively niche. I mean, I feel like as a way of resolving foods like people could have had other methods. At this point and I mean it is effective, but I don’t have effective early canning would be at preserving food. What we now also to as canning. Even now can be putting stuff in glass jars with metal lids. They can own all the US as a thing as canning home-grown produce by putting it in like a mason jar of something similar, which is a glass shower with a metal lid. Stuff like jars and like like it, unaware and confusing, so Kilner jar. I’m referring to glass down. They can also be like the hinge sealed ones, jazzy mason jars are just saying. And then, yet is also the ones with the hinge scandal okay which summer buy, but these of the Kilner jar TM is the same as a messenger piling fur listeners in different places thing we have a jar you put a circle of metal on top and then you screw something on IK. I know what were yeah an inventor called Peter Joanne was making these iron and tin alloy cans and yet they were very sick. But eventually, and different industrial technology meant that you could make thinner tins and seal develop onto the canopy that looks like a crackly way best to go around the edge of the top of the tin cutting into it and which is the kind that you get a Swiss army knife are always the two Kepler is just the way that it looks to me is because it you got the long pointy bit and then the shorter, less pointy bit like not, it’s not cutting out the top. Kind of like piercing it out doing that yet was invented in 1855 by a surgical instrument maker, which is a lot of overlap is something handheld the cuts. Things yeah make sense, can surgery you did surgery on a It does sound a bit more efficient than the hammer and chisel in the legacy. This is only doable because they’ve managed to invent in a walled cans but, interestingly, that kind of open during the American Civil War was also deemed too dangerous for domestic use. Okay, were reminded that this is the normal kind of travel to open that you get in this army knife and similar stuff. I guess that those are for manly men out in the world who don’t have time for the Tony things knives in the kitchen. Also dangerous for domestic believe it’s something to do with because they use the skeleton, they do have a tendency if you don’t exactly know what you’re doing to Kenneth slip off and there is a potential of slicing your arm open. Okay, definitely see why. But at the same time, they sound more dangerous than other kitchen implements a chisel, so a safer version of that was was then developed and for specifically for pickled beef and learners bully beef so that rings a bell that to do with military suppliers well and so are general preserved me thing in the US but was also part military rations. It is why we have that military suspicion because it was with the army longer than it was in domestic use. Okay, and Turner’s corn before spam and it has that turning key on it all, and not for a long time and by no you mean. So go the pattern to this love. His name is J. Court probably said that wrong. In 1866. And yeah, the lever tin opener wasn’t really big saying this point still directed this key that you could basically attach to a flap of metal on the tin and then just basically paid slowly ripped the tin open shirt did have to have a different kind of key for different shapes tin though because different foods were sold in different shapes of 10 like they still are hiking and running something like, and milk. You still had to puncture the JS isn’t as bad in its liquid because you just need a whole, rather than to open the whole thing yet. I mean, I guess you’re still need some kind of cam opening because you don’t like. Not every can you combine the same yeah when he’s got an places like the others on account from Connecticut and not long after the American Civil War, which best estates. The cloaks in shops would open the tins for customers. Others found that safer testing defeats the point somewhat because understanding of your canning food at the source and then shipping it around. But if you then getting it opened at the shop you got very limited timeframe without food is foods. Yet another journey your house without only one cylinder is a reason the claw -shaped open and never really became a big and then eventually eventually in the 1890s you get a can opener with a serrated wheel mass produced. It was panted like 20 years earlier, but the mass production took a welter to kick off and burning in 1920, figure out adding a second wielder hold onto the can might be a good idea. Equally as dangerous without sober talking almost a hundred and 50 years between can food and reasonable can opener be one of the most long-awaited invention yeah bids the one that meant that you could open the can, without also having to hold onto the can can openers leave kind of a sharp edge circular mansion that was quite useful in of H. Very easy to injure yourself on an open can today so I guess the invention is still out there like the perfect can opener has not yet been given to the one that like renders the can. Completely safe at the same times opening, yeah, guess cutting sin metal and having it not be sharp is beyond modern technology like you want to go in the direction and there is the combination can opener and knife sharpener. Okay, in a busy just live for danger in the kitchen opening balance of life at the same time, though there is there is a modern, can opener, but Shea I enjoy, which is the one touch invented by Mark Sanders, basically clamps on an impression and it turned itself around and opens the can most good from wagon accessibility standpoint, it’s a one-handed, can opener, you don’t you don’t need both hands operator yeah and also you don’t need, like hand strengths. Even the one yeah you need to hand you need to be able to break the thing off as can openers that nine-year-olds to pollen example from the might struggle with using from the physical strength standpoint. Also like as we have just pointed out and handed the shot in hand. For example, a nine-year-olds who have opened the can before my not be aware of that and potentially bad savings and you don’t need a can of that of the can nowadays do because a lot of them do come with poles/tabs/everyone: especially the drinks drinks cans. Now those are great unless you get one of the ones where you pull. It Comes off before you open the car. Yeah, those are ideal your deflect what they can do now my options are limited and I will admit to being like one of those very, very foolish people who occasionally opens cans of the night disco/aware Oregon to govern a can opener, have been known to do that I know is not a great idea but also, sometimes I just really want to do all sister been invented actually in the 20s but is still being perfected now would say different companies experimenting with different shapes of whole different shapes of ring Paul and he can find online and if if I can refind et al. because I forgot to bookmark it out to link to it. There’s a typology of ring poles that someone is painstakingly together and pour or do their future archaeologists are gonna love this like they will be had by like someone gone through and done like a really accurate taxonomy for like early by keeping belt buckles or something and we like time that they were made on my guard so the final step in can opening technology at the moment seems to be computer can it is a resealable drinks can pass and then you put it back on all use for a casinos private label energy drink. Okay casino is sister company called casino are private label energy drink energy drink with a resealable and those imagining that you could only get this drink in a specific casino which seems a lot to embed something you concept of the premium energy drink is still wild to me the kids choking Red Rooster with just tastes like fizzy apple juice. I am not sure what that premium drinks apart from the others. Resealable curtains say that every brief history of can openers to know players all that jazz. I mean all of this confirms my. That the trickiest kitchen device and apparently it took some that to just get a usable version, incredibly efficient and fantastic method of preserving food. The only polymers we can’t get out again. Take 50 years from a problem presenting itself to finding literally any solution hammering chisel. I guess you know that can be the solution enables customers not condone chiselling random objects, but I do 60% of this podcast opinions of individual podcast as may be different from the official line is not represent thread incorporated Coward my paper from Polly but RPG ideas. We have a podcast if you like to hear RPG advice on how to use assorted incredibly bad ideas as actual ideas are natural gay then the polybag pocket available on pretty much everybody capture from a bad day when he goes at it since about, given that was still in wintertime and which I guess is quite regional and local ladder because sloes don’t grow everywhere, and so so Jen and if you’ve not heard of before, is a type of flavoured spirits and that is very traditional in Britain and it’s made of gin, sugar and sloes, which are the berries of the hot outside Blackthorn plant also merits no other. You can, and I mean we would want the raw, but you can make regular fruit leather. Apparently ham which is a bit of in no, you old lady would run away any of the fruits of bound either immediately edible makes sense, but also don’t force on there is a need them. Please eat yesterday and and slows you can’t eat as they are either really. I need to try but it would be a great time, notoriously part stringent, but you can flavour alcohol with because people are nothing not inventive when it comes to food. And you know that when a waste Berry harvest you use it somehow and so this is how slow gin developed and it I really like it. It it can be drunk and meets as opposed normally you would bring one adrift in the sodium is sweeter because the sugar and really nice labour and and it’s popular now, so resurgence as the whole hedgerow sued them generally are thinking the UK which is quite nice origin becoming trendy again and and and the resurgence of some of these more traditional and like craft and food answer, and it is beautiful, ruby red colour as well and it just and but there is a lot more to it. Then I realised that so am quite a long way, but not massively long way and so it became became a thing really in the 18th century because of two things. Firstly, because of sugar becoming a lot and because of an and secondly because of the enclosure and the notorious enclosed and passed by Parliament to enclose common lands into private land owned by Gentry and that meant a lot of hedges being planted to close off the land and when the most popular plants to use and those hedges was Blackthorn because it’s very spiky and dense and keep people out and livestock in and so there was this sudden abundance of those everywhere and people alike. Use the because you by great so slow. Gin became was kind of like a home and like you, you wouldn’t really go out. I don’t think there was anywhere that was making so Jen Jen was very popular and in this. As well, and yet it was talked about the ruin before, but now origin that was being made was so we say, great quality air Irene. Some of it was what you moonshine. Today, some of it would be slightly poorly made. Jen and so basically the cheaper stuff which is what you would be buying. You were not rich and wasn’t like the greatest tasting and so slow. Gin kind of as a way to improve the flavour, especially now that you get, and you had all these these three slows used to improve the flavour would be made at home and and it got bit of a reputation being like the poor man’s sports highlight this and this spirit that was associated with buses since an and to extend still true today because a lot of people, I think, especially if their fat family is the countryside will remember like my grandma used to make sodium and and it never really, on as a mainstream and until the early 20th century, so am just is interested as well, and an ancient hedgerow is defined as a hedgerow that was in place before enclosure Acts, so you can kind of tell which one is because hedgerow that was planted as part of the enclosure Acts always wanted since, well, contain a lot of Blackthorn and a lot of these these kind of woody shrubs and that why use that were planted to know for the purpose of like enclosing the land, whereas an ancient hedgerow hedgerow that was in place before that will have an added definition is should have five or more native species and it’s a lot more diverse like a lot more and and a lot more kind of different plants and rather then more the same stuff and that was just put up quick to enclose things like quick and efficient and and sloes are actually like it can be difficult. Different D. It can be difficult to differentiate between sloes and damsons, and because sloes, damsons and bonuses, which is a great word and are all kind of similar -looking, small bluish blackberries and claim baby clams and but damson trees and don’t have the maximum that bonds have, and they do look a bit more like mini funds and because they got them coming from them, whereas sloes are more close to the December taken to help, so it wasn’t until the late 19th century that this home-made started to be produced in like commercial distilleries and and studied. I guess they were picking up on it being quite a popular thing. By that point to make and although it should be that there was also a large temperance movement in this. Particularly in the late 19, and an Edwardian period and so there’s, there’s a lot of antialcohol sentiment going around still making this so mostly wonder how many people temperance movement and secretly making sodium people might be hypocritical sometimes have absolutely not so bit more fashionable and more well-known in the 20th-century degree. The 1920s and I guess the golden age of cocktails and the slow gin fizz was invented so that a cocktail that involves gin and champagne, and apparently in some cases, egg white, which is unappealing, but is in a lot of cocktails to make it to scanners fizzy and frothy. Yeah, big big froth right immediate. I’m that is a menace address and remain popular 1960s, when it kind of fell out of fashion. I guess with a lot of things that were seen as more traditional and stuffy kind of fashion. Only now that it’s starting to come back because now it’s seen as something nostalgic and natural, which shows the trend at the moment and I guess because it’s getting more popular to home and is something you can do you live somewhere whether an so if you have to make you identify your slows and you’re supposed to traditionally after the first frost comes quite late now. In our modern days of global warming. Unfortunately just happened to her as yeah I not that long ago, and you know it’s so slight late December, which, and given that sloes are right around October time and it is quite late, so what you can do instead them when they’re right. In October, and freeze them because the whole point of picking them up to the thrust is that the skins will be a little bit cracked and so the juices will have a better insert your alcohol since is fine and what I spine you pick the grapes when they’re all frozen and that makes this post to make the wine sweeter second German desert line. Okay, I spine and the same thing with those and freezing them achieve the same effect and and then you your slows into a jar, you add sugar and depending on your taste back and be anything from you spoonfuls to half as much sugar as size, so if you like it sweeter. A mooring not. I mean, there’s there’s recipes the differing amounts and many just fed up and up again and you leave it for a good few months and and you every cell phone you studied, turn the bottle and to let things sort of diffuser and is old but after at least three months you will have a drinkable sojourn but is saying is better and but not having done a lot of experimenting, I couldn’t comment on and but you will definitely have something that you can drink and will be sodium after three months so they very call oh idea slow gin existed and it was made of stuff from hedgerows. Baden know that I didn’t until I looked into more and my new how to make traditional thing my grandma made it, and I’ve made a couple times but I didn’t know the reason why became popular, no being) and that something and and why there are so many and that hedgerows and so you really interesting and something that I thought was just a traditional rural thing and actually came about because of bigger events and I guess we cannot about that and we cannot do look into traditions that much perhaps working for indeed warrior we look at things we do will soothe ago why that intonation so I guess we say so. Thank you for listening and we have a twitter if you want to want to know shows pictures of your Cano flows and fences at Blaydon thread and we also have a picture and read and read it you would like to hang out with and get some rest. Even things and and if you have any ideas or subjects that you will have a email at bread and bread podcast@gmail.com. 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Probably Bad 28 – Big Hairy Men, The Movie Speed, and The Johnnies Stabbington

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hello and welcome to probably bad podcast a podcast which is definitely bad. I’m pencil.

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I’m paper today’s probably bad RPG idea is an urban setting campaign where, in the end. Turns out the supernatural doesn’t actually exist. I thought we would start 2021. With this one because it’s the first ever probably bad posts.

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but I do really like it as a kind of it feels kind of obvious at this point, but the idea that it’s like a very paranoia kind of thing it’s like these guys are vampires we need to take them out and kill them all you kill them and they’re just guys

turns out most things will kill them if you put a stake through their heart

yeah you stabbed emos it’s nothing

you successfully like purged the goth population like my interpretation when I originally made it was you show up at the head vampires lair for the final battle and it turns out it’s all been an elaborate prank when it’s under so women, Frank just all your friends got together with magic is real in your sorcerer called Cthulhu, but gas lighting Collymore accurate bank which will possess poems but there is also something in the idea of a supernatural game that gradually transitions into a sci-fi game yet this ideas like there’s all these folks and spirit directly aliens which i’m now realising is multiple Doctor Who episodes like I think Duncan yet

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Bread and Thread Xmas Pudding

LIZ

Hello and welcome to bread and thread a podcast about food and domestic history ‘m liz

HAZEL

and I’m hazel we’re two friends who studied archaeology together and love history and almost as much as we love making various things and food so well.

LIZ

Where we’re recording this in mid-December, so naturally I have made a large amount of gingerbread.

HAZEL

Of course I will be disappointed otherwise

LIZ

Using my gingerbread recipe adapted from my mums where I put in lots more seasoning and yet there are people who do not like my gingerbread recipe because there’s so much ginger in it role is it to English gingerbread is you conceal it afterwards.

HAZEL

Excellent you are you in the critique, and red or soft gingerbread club I like. Like us had grassed me gingerbread, which is the crunchy as gingery a stingy bread I’ve ever had, but I like making soft gingerbread ages, like the feel of it more to state so waiting to like the way it feels a piece I now know I was about to say is lying like firm but soft and warm and fluffy grasp against it in a

yeah delicious both just because I get one of the other depending on how long I forget the most gingerbread is in the that makes sense now review but yeah, December baking season is upon us and it is wonderful and I’m also planning a dating experiment next week, but I will let you know has to done that how it went you, I am intrigued. I a sore need to take all that when I went online sound like three recipes. One of them didn’t actually have me donate my own one happening then it one was just yeah okay with me dinner as you would expect in the other one was made with box cake mix, which is a is not really helpful because you don’t say what brand like firstly I wouldn’t use a box cake mix anyway because, unlike that second if you don’t say what brand you just say two boxes lately come in different sizes so and like something you had about and then decided to make a date where you just like media cake was like. You should put me dinner cake because they found out that I was going then needs and also like when I put things in cakes by the best reasons to invent food, so I let you know-how like ghosts you been up to you, continuing your trying to finish things. I am an cake, which I will talk about later because this episode is in a B about Christmas pudding filling, but about the later because an this episode is about Chris and something that will probably cover next year, let’s be honest, yes, very much and I did also finish some accidental ombre yeah as the accidental ombre hat so big like that because it fits my hair in a lot of silly so feels good to like Something is done and I can actually wear it needed to happen. It is that so you finishing things are going pretty well so far but okay and yet at the finishing things is going pretty well at the moment and I have to move on to garments that was my last small to finish so got her shrug as a rainbow shrug that was missing. That is next to get finished so will see, so going to be talking about Christmas puddings. Yeah, that would be an appropriate topic for mid-December episode, the time this goes out in January and also Christmas pudding is delicious, despite what Nick will tell you, yet I have mixed feelings about Christmas pudding because I not something everyone likes. In fact I would preside a majority of people don’t like it, morally, but has diehard fans to now I love it. I never liked either an and Amen I was I would get chocolate pudding Christmas, which is great, but I am my taster maturing is just because the time it myself, but I’m really looking forward to putting so see, so I in the process of gathering mission for this and I watched a video isn’t things as well as an reading stuff and an mass manner of tasting history a while ago I recently put up a video about Christmas pudding, which is really good, so to go watch it and there he makes a pudding and talks about quite a bit. I’m gonna go into an the son of deep history stuff. That much because that’s kind of been done in a few places and but I will talk more about the kind of folklore. Social traditions side here, for indeed and so concept of puddings is pretty old and they are like one of the older dishes and so the traditional way that you make pudding as you boil in a cloth or you steam it, and all end in the case of some of the oldest puddings and they were boiled in animal casings and like like sausages, basically putting so they might be used like the stomach like the intestines of animals and like black pudding is another one. So that’s a blood sausage because it got other oats in the standard is blood oats, plenty of pepper and big chunks of SAP, which Mrs disgusting. I love it, divide people. But I also like rich though, so am opening is a mixture of things that you boil up these days in a cloth or skin and the popular anymore because they are quite heavy and and it’s partly that suet content so that the meat that they can get vegetable set and the McManus study, bungee texture, specifically the south around the kidneys, I think, morally and and we don’t need that to get through the winter any more because we can market by like fruits and stuff and another countries, so it’s not so popular anymore, at least in Britain and I believe in America pudding is a different thing and custody. Tight type thing and which I think is probably to do with the site more confusing pudding being a generic term for desert now and serving that often because they contain this suet content which is beef that you can get vegetable so it gives back. I know I believe so, yeah, and which gives it back in a spongy like dodgy texture which an again people really like sometimes, but I love it because it’s great winter sake as a heavyweight cake. Good way to quite firm as well, like classic Christmas pudding. This is closer to the texture of kitchen sponsor response cash making some great somethings. It’s hard to describe accurately while the goods, despite the fact great so we really that much anymore, at least in Britain out of fashion and the heavy and we don’t really need that to get through the winter any more because we can go to the supermarket and get fresh fruit from other countries and we have central heating, hot study pudding inside a soreness at but I think so. The earlier puddings as well. One necessarily sweet and and I think a lot of traditional Pat’s original British foods are can still be like that, like steak and kidney pudding and example or black pudding -like dimensions and to make it even more confusing. The word pudding now means it is a generic term for desert, so you can also puddings the above no exception, because then baked so the not really a pudding stride at the same time, because at heart and put the battery in it and then put it on the other have to say, although we are talking about this being your intellectual billing. I wouldn’t go to Yorkshire and say Yorkshire pudding is not brave enough word that I’m Lancastrian required southerner I would get no quarter might be one of those, no one else. Yeah, so things about here are the type of pudding where it mixed bunch of things that been steamed or boiled earlier ones weren’t necessarily sweet and in fact there was a lot of mixing of sweeter and more savoury flavours past and so things that you get me with dried fruit and spices things. And so, in the form of curry, which is the mediaeval late 14th century cookbook that we also didn’t earlier episode on there’s recipe for 3D porridge type thing, though, with concepts opening dried fruits in sweet like porridge dish that we got pudding-yet then as the pudding comes into being in the next couple of centuries we get the remorse savoury type puddings and soap example keys pudding from the famous Ryan pudding hot peas getting cold p study in the cup four days old. So what actually is. So like beams keys were a big part of the diets for a lot of the poorer people of people living in rural areas in Britain at the everyone wasn’t a Lord you’re beating a lot of these and the point being that you could drive them so you could later or sustain you through the winter. So during the winter, you would be eating lots of what actually is. Peas pudding is just all slices of mushy peas and more kind of on the parody size and thick porridge, and I don’t have exact recipe for this, but I will look up. Yeah, like thick pudding, thick porridge type thing and so still not really your traditional pudding, but it is yeah and and you can use rehydrated peas for so winter staple, the references references to sentence below a protein yet and but probably will get boring if you’re eating it. Like Fortes in a row, probably so puddings became quite popular in the 18th-century sickly plum pudding, which is anything with dried fruit and it really all those heritage video wasn’t there about city pudding claiming this is in there pudding one and but yeah, it doesn’t have to be plans 🙂 can be like any weather, you have really basically just men dragged through that point in an winter. It would have to be Dry Creek because if you’re in the new don’t yet have a plus apples is great, apples or keep quite long time and is an ingredient in the traditional Christmas pudding recipe because yet again there will be only things that you still have around like a fruit, vegetable and so dried fruit could also become expensive depending on what you are getting. And when you’re getting into the 19th century, which is when Christmas pudding becomes a thing and Victorian, as yet, and so Christmas pudding is a thing existed before just wasn’t necessarily Christmas pudding was moreover the pudding came before the Christmas sales, Christmas yeah using a sweet pudding with dried fruit in it and spices and things was a popular winter dish beforehand and it was my became associated with Christmas. Because Christmas you would put all the fancy stuff that you get in, so your fancier dried fruits or candy peels your more expensive spaces and your brandy alcohol were going to Christmas, dump all the good stuff in becomes the Christmas pudding understand one of the first times that it given a specific title. Christmas wedding is in live actions and rebook and which meeting 40s. I’ve gone should know this 1845. And that’s when it becomes Christmas pudding. Although puddings like that are still being eaten kind of all year-round, but just probably not so fancy back and migrate grammar, whose pudding recipe prisons pudding recipe I could talk about later and would make all of her puddings at once. In November, year-round, and so it’s now so distinctive this Christmas pudding thing and the recipe hasn’t really changed since the Victorian era like it. Still, that kinda dodgy suet raisins, dried fruit, mixed peel, brandy and sugar, all that stuff is basically the same thing. And because I guess that became traditional at that point I think the victory lap tradition and their alumni traditions coming in that time as well, specially rang Christmas and my Christmas trees and Christmas crackers. But once those thing, cook them in a basin or a mould, so the original way of me pulling into a big in the copper sieges Prowling probably impractical to make a big red grammar pudding recipe with you have to steam for eight hours and bigger salaries. Back then, literally, like animals, was pretty impressive on a Christmas table, especially if it’s covered in flaming brandy. Yeah, forgot about the setting on fire, setting a fire part during this area as well think the custom of pouring brandy and setting it on fire. Also become quite popular and we still do that and it’s really fun, specific reason we do. That was just someone just because it was fun and everyone else started doing think it’s just aesthetic like, why not being things is a thing more as a way of cooking them than just going to make this fire on the table that there is no reason for a long tradition of the symbol of fire and light Christmas time or at Winter Solstice adjacent time, so I surprised it can become a thing right and I’m not go on to recipes and so when I made I use the pudding basin and that became more popular because it’s just easier, it’s less messy if you make it an appealing class, you then have to deal with what festival ever goes wrong tide across uptight enough, then back and be pudding disaster water gets into your pudding is gonna go wrong and and secondly you’ve then got to deal with a whole mess of getting out of the class and then I guess washing the core somehow use again. And yeah, that some gross yeah so particular. If it’s gone cold. Anybody trying pudding from stuff, and to do that, so am doing in a pudding basin and so moving away from a cannibal shape and go more into that kind flattopped half dome-shaped and telecoms in hemisphere. Yeah, super fancy, you can use a mould jelly mould. If you have seen toying jelly moulds that Victorians loved making like Castle St Christmas trading. Who wouldn’t love a pudding Castle was on fire while for the Kings. So yeah, that’s that kind of the way I elected to do as well and am victim of its own success because became so traditional and so iconic, of being associated with Christmas just didn’t really change for about a hundred years and and now, because it’s not chained because traditional very rich, very heavy thing is not really to our taste anymore, and although a lot of people, especially in Britain. A lot of people still have an Christmas. It’s not something that everyone can alike, and might be maybe one of two maybe three people that will eat and then like the younger people and family will just go to cake or something and not that popular anymore think that whether you love comes in value can have the Swiss role. This chocolate covered Swiss role. There is an open effort to reinvent it nowadays. Yet things like simply mumble one with the whole orange in the middle that sold out everywhere years ago. I didn’t hear about that. Heston is a peak test. The middle is combining it with like a pond, pudding, sieges got to suet puddings. Not a lot of people like to smash together unfurling erasure Sussex person records. This filtering has to write about testing as wafer further review and I talk what goes into now, and I was unaware that we had any family recipe that already. But when I when I went to make Christmas pudding and I mentioned that my mum and she was like, we have a family Christmas recipe is from my grandma, which is my my great-grandmother, so that was a really exciting and she finds this recipe which is written on a little bit of cars and from my great-grandmother’s mother. My mother sighed his name and I kid you not, was either fish amazing. Also remember the fish family who married a guy selling the bird so the family took that into Marie’s amazing country names her so am so sorry, apparently, and my mum would go with her brother to migrate grammar’s house and on stir up Sunday, which is the fifth Sunday before Christmas, which was traditionally the day on which you would make your Christmas pudding. And yeah, you Christmas pudding on the Sunday before and then it won’t go off. It will not, in fact, one of the recipe book they have. It says the pudding is good for up to 2 years, presumably seeding the whole time. I guess such as a feeder, but you did so those that don’t know, seeding it being just adding some alcohol to every now and then making imagine a little shop of horrors type pudding monster that you people was established puddings different so alcohol your Christmas pudding is good for a long time. It will be fine, but you need to read email, recoil it before you to otherwise be white sent so-called yeah: study not great woman study winner. Once is what built Britain entirely truth so they would go to Grandma’s house. Sunday and help her make the pudding and everyone in the family has to stir pudding. Good luck obviously and, as mentioned, and great either would make all her large quantity of the contained and how the suet found suet raisins at the same assault on through yeah mixed peel and sugar, eggs stuff six tame yeah also a large cooking apple and Apple have lots of feelings about this bullet will be too sweet yet and has mixed peel, you are moving some bicarbonate of soda ^ ^ and the rind and use of an orange and lemon hall peel at yeah so you can grate it in, which is what I do or you could just like UN, you can appeal against an alcohol so apparently my program. I used to use a bottle of Brown ale expect so doesn’t have to be brandy and VAT in a recipe it says, and 68 tablespoons CBCs a fairly liberal measure reportedly was like a brown elder. I don’t ask again so stipulates Brown ale, brandy or dark barley wine, so I assume it when very different sleepers and I think brandy is more about like Wolf alcoholic, whereas ale is a very distinctive taste and short value when we taste like, but I assume that’s just use whatever you got away when he guffawed at the time because branding so I really like that because it shows that is not just one homogenous thing like Mxit a bit more real because you know people are using what they have what they were in what they can get some of family recipes recipes so obviously I didn’t make this recipe to the letter because it says there is no method given except for the sentence steamer set at least eight hours and I do not have patients, nor do I need that much could and I very much reduce the quantities to make only one pudding which only needed to be seen for an hour and half in a pressure cooker does seem more more sensible yet, and how big this pudding with the eye know what made several puddings like a large one couple medium-sized ones, and then a few smaller ones as well, so their work. There were multiple puddings involved came, although I yeah if you made this one big one. I assume it would be just seemingly about all day cutting the size of a small dog. I also have the a of recipe from our don’t know what the title of this book is because the covers partly torn off as a 1970s cookbook by Marguerite Patten, which has fantastic recipes him and I was certainly going to more some point and rate them I sold yet there is Christmas pudding, so I found it for some reason is next to oxtail soup because they both delicious. I don’t know every Knoxville soup soup that this this recipe is slightly more reasonable than the one that increases about the brown ale and yet this is the one that says 6 tablespoon and this one also includes gonzo to which the other recipe which is probably dissolved includes black treacle and white and an yes, although they’re essentially the same sugar right into different flavours like my parking recipe uses black treacle angle syrup because they have different flavour profiles a yeah traditional Christmas pudding has that very dark, rich taste so Americans that black treacle as molasses so yet as 1971 also has instructions on how to make it in a pressure cooker and which dramatically reduces the time needed sectors here about now have to do hours depending on size pudding at a potted history of Christmas pudding and a report back on her taste so am yet I went on a little bit longer than expected. Just a lot to talk to be so rich, her hands would you like to perhaps wash down their Christmas trading all yet with Irn-Bru Arno. Anyone else worse. But I would like to know I’m mod paper from polygon RPG ideas. We have a podcast if you like to hear RPG advice on how to use assorted incredibly bad ideas as actual ideas and actual day, then listen to Polly Babcock, available on pretty much every pot capture from the sorry talk about Irn-Bru. I do this once reminder listeners that we do have a patriarchal access to discord, server and recipes, and potential threat to make your very own mini episode on what everyone at patron.com/red thread and we also have an adverse red podcast@gmail.com case you want throw any ideas away, or you are sending episode with us, so I know I ask this a lot, but the answer is always expected all do think Irn-Bru is just experience of things that we looked at this podcast, I would think, although Ben expected some guess that hundred years old. Yeah, when you think it’s wrong. I was not in every Scottish is give me a country I have no idea her so Germany so the first drink I can find, called Irn-Bru spell actually spell Irn-Bru as opposed to IRM BR. They are, you can speak as opposed to IRM BR you exactly from New York in 1899, while not coming yeah, and the concept of homebrew is American and you can’t get it in definitely Canada, think, and there’s a different formulations in North America and because there’s a colour Internet, which isn’t allowed in Canada. So why is it called Irn-Bru extra something that struggled to find does have an Cyrix citrate in it and ammonium ferric citrate is that actual iron and it’s a molecule which has iron in it. Okay. Site make you strong think that’s the idea. Yeah and sorrows produced by the masts and rolled Stephen chemicals company, and just because that was the sort of people making soft drinks in the 1800s and got copied there and eventually she was a London company that made flavourings, made an Irn-Bru drink. In 1898 and then in 1899 bar which still makes Irn-Bru, as well as a lot of other soft drinks and trading much about and have record saying that they were selling it, then even though officially they started selling it in 1901. So what is the truth so that this is the only new conspiracy theory that something happened with Irn-Bru written years UN Irn-Bru truther. I am an Irn-Bru first. That’s just the weird thing and then in the 40s they changed how they spelt it from. IN rule, the normal words to IRM – BR you be a more recent branding, saying definitely that sounds like the trendy replacing letters but I suppose thinking about that soy is anything to trademark application said that spelling is from July 1946. How 1967, a bar tartan based on the Irn-Bru colours of orange blue-and-white was created and was registered as the Irn-Bru tartan with the Scottish Tartan Society on 12 September 1997 and Irn-Bru kilt is entirely doable. They now sell 20 cans a second. A lot of Irn-Bru so dismayed by bar to Coca-Cola is the number one selling soft drink almost everywhere in the world apart from Iceland through various places in the Middle East, where Chelsea and Scotland, where it, Scotland’s second national drink whiskey. I love that although sometimes it’s made in Russia. Why is it just easier for distribution. So do despite them saying in the 80s that was made in Scotland from girders major made in Scotland and Russia from secret ingredients and three people know the recipe, the founder of bar daughter and one member of staff who is in charge of actually making the staff so still have the IN chemical does still contain ammonium Terrace sulphate ferric citrate and also contains caffeine and quinine. I guess that will kill healthy which are listed as flavourings okay as there’s a lot of debate about what Irn-Bru actually tastes like people so bubblegum. I strongly disagree. Tastes like nothing bubblegum flavoured ever had pink. Okay, I don’t think had Irn-Bru so can’t really weigh in on this one. Comparison can make is rosehip, a handsome rosehip TMI media sought was if I put sugar in. This would taste like Irn-Bru hello no hello is that better. Can you hear me, yeah, can you get website hotel when I said I know had Irn-Bru forestry said about bubblegum before people have seen, saying that it tastes a bubblegum which doesn’t is like any bubblegum bubblegum flavoured product I’ve ever had even adjust his pink just a taste think because comparison can make. So I think is rosehip. Okay, like I’ve had rosehip tea. My immediate thought when I tried it for the first time was this had sugar in it would taste like Irn-Bru, so I’m going with rosehip T1 rosehip pulp is what you want. Wow. Rosehip because rated cordial that can’t. I do know I don’t like busy drinks in the first place. Really, so probably miss me, but I kind of get why it’s so popular now. Yeah, love it. Scotland’s Simonsen to made in Scotland from girders was there like that they can campaign in the 80s. In 1998 they had the advertising standards authority is most complained about which featured a picture of a cow, and the words when I’m a burger I want to be washed down with Irn-Bru picture that now Hazel is an actual advert that they put out in the 90s, which received 700 complaints wow why I have two more Irn-Bru Irn-Bru facts for you okay and last year they brought out Irn-Bru energy because it wasn’t energetic enough already. Cannot find how exactly it in energy drink, but apparently it’s an energy chain and also Irn-Bru Crimbo reduce limited edition festive surgeon, Irn-Bru Jew, which is apparently spiced ginger flavour and speechless street name for a drug Crimbo reduce Crimbo is solely middle-aged, middle-class only imagine it as some sort of lake cocaine coffee to think about technically so my final Irn-Bru in 2015, Jeremy Corbyn had his first official trip to Scotland as the leader of the Labour Party and photographed drinking Irn-Bru on the train home because earlier he’d refuse the can and it was pointed out that it would probably harm as imaging Scotland interview didn’t drink subclass not getting anything. I will back hello. Okay, I think it’s working okay. Clearly, yet geological and not politics to my last fact is that in 2015, Jeremy Corbyn had his first official trip to Scotland as leader of the Labour Party and on the train home was photographed drinking Irn-Bru because he refused to can earlier and people were worried it was, in effect, his image in Scotland if he didn’t drink it. I also did not see as surprises. Also the colour orange. So Irn-Bru could make or break the next election. I don’t Wanna get into that those just a lot going on with. So think thank you for listening to our strange and confusing focus is the only place where you can hear Christmas pudding and Irn-Bru discuss in the same space. When this episode goes out I will try to remember to post that Irn-Bru advert because honestly, what on earth were they thinking, yeah, is eye-catching how much is eye-catching is the fact that half of the advert as bright orange memorable. I went so positively to thank you for listening. If you want to talk to is about this have a Twitter app read in French compressor for seeing this Irn-Bru just sends pictures of Christmas puddings, but that’s much jollier. So thank you for listening and will talk to. Next time you are you are you you you

Probably Bad Podcast: Pencil, Paper and a Live Show

D&Daniel
It’s a very special time of year you know the one, the anniversary of the probably bad podcast. We did a livee show on the information superhighway, with the loving support of Hedwig and Carlo and you, whatever you are

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we have faces? we have faces. 2020s looking up. Welcome to our faces welcomes light streaking what
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I give it 10 minutes until one of us forget how the language works.
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making a cup of tea was a good idea.
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chat has discovered the soundboard. shall we do an idea before we drown in geese and godzillas?. He can everyone feel free to listen. The idea like this fair time. So first idea was submitted by TD whisperer also one of the most popular ideas that were posted in 2020, congratulations, TD whisperer, you win a live show Dragon, who runs an orphanage, they hoard the children they raise.

They know I seem to remember this for the whole discussion about whether the Dragon kills parents and then adopt the orphans or just goes around finding orphans for like it’s important to establish which is true,

like I feel what you have. Is you have a dragon who kills parents and adopts the orphans and a second Dragon shows up to rescue those orphans and adopt them

makes sense they’re probably a bad parent.

Yet someone has asked whether the provenance of orphans really matters all that much i feel it does when the provenance is i’m doing murder.

I would argue legally the provenance of orphans is quite important
reasons of technicality whether someone is’s. It shows up as sometimes yes
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under the Baudelaires law

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sorry my neighbours have decided to join lifestream
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so there is also the question of when they become adults do they still count as orphans for the Dragon purposes. Are they all just kicked out in 18 possibly consumed at 18 because if Dragons adopted them it has told control over their diet so it can flavour them.
i like how we’ve gone from a fairly wholesome the dragon is adopting orphans to the dragon is fattening up orphans to eat them at 18.

it’s farm to table.

someone asks If you’re an adult when your parents died what happens. you’re still getting adopted.

good luck stopping the dragon adopting you.

like the Dragon is just like i feel there’s like this feature so that the Dragon.makes orphans, which is a lovely mystic way of putting it there’s Dragon who adopts orphans and the Dragon who at the age of 18 takes care of them

like a halfway house

The Dragon might, let them out when they’re adult by Dragon standards. so they’re 200.

Is a good point the Dragon’s like none of my children make it to maturity, then ends upp with ofsted called on by another Dragon concern for the children’s welfare

campaign idea is you’re OFSTED inspectors try to inspect this Dragon school in a cave

i’m concerned whether the Dragon can adequately provide for the welfare of these orphans

but not to like be a downer, but i am 100% sure it can’t it’s a giant flesh eating lizard that lives in a hole.

hey some dragons live in forests, you’ve heardd of forest schools

dragons are rich, so a Dragon just pays people to come help i think what we’re making is dragon batman. Dragon Batman ever since Dragon’s parents were shot the Dragon has been adopting orphans and making them into little dragons in my costume and sending them off to fight whatever dragons fight, knights i guess

the problem is the modern media like to focus on the origins of Dragon rather than what it actually does once it has all the orphans

to many people who associate with joker manticore jesus

what wold Alfred Be in this situation imagining a kobold in a tuxedo

exactly the same, just an old man waiting on this dragon.

Michael Caine is just in a cave,

I would watch a movie that’s like michael caine in a cave trying to emotionally support this dragon. i would also like one where michael caine is a kobold but he’s just in a bad halloween lizard mask.

yes. i reckon he’d be up for it, he did Miss congeniality,
Ezriel von LMA in the chat says broke dragons want princesses to eat them, woke dragons want princesses cause they need occasional babysitters.

but when they go out they destroy the Castle so that the Princess is now an orphan and then adopt her. self perpetuating
i adopt all my babysitters.
Doesn’t everyone

there’s is a sentence to be interesting in -out of context already losing my grasp of English guys. yeah okay so we’ve got bat dragon… so why does bat dragon assume people be more scared of bats than they would be of a dragon

it’s the one thing dragons fear humans are afraid of mice. Yet I guess smaller, smaller one.

Yet dragons have like damage resistance everything except it would dragons see one bit of guano and put bat traps Around the Cave Just in Case they don’t want to see thaat
Spiders to humans i guess
Difference between a bat and a rat Is One Letter and One Pair of Wings

Every Every Year like 100 Dragons are Just Devoured by a single bat

the stat that the Average Dragon Eats 200 Bats a year Is inacurrate. bat georg, who lives in a cave…

So we’ve got a Pretty Solid grasp of the idea of our Dragon adopter. whic is Weird. Princess Kidnapping and Terrified Dragon Spent

Straightforward Story Idea There.

So How Would They Show up in a Natural campaign

and the Obvious Answer Is Someone Keeps Killing Parents.

Okay, I Do like Just Go to Town Every Single person there is a tragic dragon related accident.

Someone Gets Pregnant. In the Town. Presumably They Hide It for As Long As Possible, Consideriing when Dragon Finds out That Had Occurred

it’s like hot fuzz except That It’s Dragons instead of Middle-Aged White People – what am i talking about So My Reasoning Was Only a Dozen That Called Dragon Realises That Quite A Lot Of Really Relate to Walls

Very Little of Hot Fuzz is Related to Orphans Would Say Only Watch Movies for the Parts That Could Theoretically relate to orphans. gLoss over the rest we’re going toTake Some Questions from Chat, but We Do Have One from One of the Patrons Staff with an AncelLine wants to Know What Was the First Campaign That We Played in

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I told because thinking it really depends what kind of game you want to play like the one shot go for something like fishes racist your character is basically your name and build skills as you use them, but then also stuff like power by the apocalypse systems can be quite fun if you one more serialise adventure entities I don’t configure favourite is IBS, a favourite film. So what remain the mood for. As a yeah there are some genuinely I never want to play this again kind of systems but then the stuff like I really like drama system I’m in the mood for something like, I don’t Wanna play dramatist sitting unhelpful and sober. Yeah, the next question. Most questions I did this like that. We just got one. The thing came up in. In a recent episode but is this is relevant reason. Keep keep stakes without escalating to the world ending is definitely just making personal yeah you will supernatural did, don’t do that don’t set overhaul 15 year long campaign fowl subverting faith and taking control and then have everyone have the engine expect based on the first episode. Yeah, don’t have that sober help because people come back from standard to much and then send one gay character, wonderful your edgy players made orphan characters. If by the poignant needing to escalate the threat your characters. Have your players have. Unlike the characters have formed connections, then I’m sorry your patio murder hobos must be destroyed point set world is your players. Yeah, the point you make a new set of characters who are going to take down your old characters because there clearly the worst I in a mode of extreme silliness, not my laptop charging the code you feel free to ask more questions. I won’t sleep about 20 seconds. Talk about pencil behind a back essence is really good RPG’s. All I like that idea return after long campaign ends. The DM creates new characters for everyone to play for the children of the old characters based on the DM’s character ships unrelated to whatever happened in Carrick on the campaign story should did you mean letting the Cara and sorry feelings about the Cara and never see legend of Coro cuts, i.e. like you says, I do think, though, just they are the children of the first camping characters I think would be interesting because you have you have your party already knows each other, which is quite helpful. Also, because the average party think generally own only contains one of any specific race.” Basically having to comb through a lot of leg half halfling fast and Goliath and characters that should be quite interesting when you do is put all the players made hats, then just all right about pairs and those two got to get babies. The question is, does every pairing from the campaign, have two children so that you can have the same number, yet are of the lake, some with one, some with three or do you just you assume that your party became a Pollock you’ll any pullout to characters and then put them back any time. Satan have any pairing at all like this sort of leaning towards another’s revolution stimulate slightly different like no and excessively male browsing replicated 10 life just apple wedges like time just produce a slightly different character concept under campaign, which will eventually, the idea of running a party with a hundred characters terrifies me like chili. If you have a hundred friends little not be straight holds a plan under day. That is a definitely banner hoodia party Pollokshields is filled in the parties it you like solitude, refer solitude, where every person must you, like every D&D party’s number you one step or sometimes both both might’ve missed out questions earlier, all see all scroll up or looking. I cannot see in missed questions missed your specific if you question vanished. Blame Nick bearing charges, picking out the questions from an sell another idea that was really popular in 2020 and create a cosmic level enemy attack damages the players, not just on a surface level, but on all layers of reality. It successfully hits a character dispensed that characters player in the face. I RL really popular for players but I what I was thinking about the different kinds of damage, like some of them are obvious. Like, you know, fire damage, you can take courage and fire psychic damage. Just tell them the Dayton logo. What already, really hard to picture what actually looks like reverse makes sense that it’s just like it makes you sad your character is upset. Yeah, some damage just yell now offer some damage spinning like my dosage to you then irritate all levels,” got to do necrotic damage in real life beyond Lake. Give your player gangrene from a corpse’s just just taken out a corpse jar. There are animals that could be said to do necrotic damage through a spider at them load up your spider machine machine fire spiders. I think I would be concerned for the spiders well-being. I would be concerned. People being shot by spiders for this final mostly be vaporised so they people define that you have just vaporised them spiders with very nice also, which has to suggest financial damage which I like, partly because it implies that you have a monster that you just really violent pickpocket smoking. What we have invented as a concept is really finer pickpocket barbarian like just puts all the separate slice pan jus like she while distracted by what happens if the get and that 20 five handing Nokia out so that you notice anything there doing. Yeah, you successfully avoid any witnesses eating them into the sea. Perfect crime. Anyone who subscribes to get do, you can just post a ship on if use of submit 10,000 feet message telling wet what spider bite. If you thought spider into a river, probably eventually end up in the sea/for to sound somewhat like a revelation, and cultural goes. If you throw a spider venom into the sea spiral bar. Yeah, weirdly deep, just like the sea sees like the amount of the price and some of it really deep true homebuilding under their spider is wearing white only super costume here discover costume because of how insect green yeah just just possible adorable spider that does that. It’s like there’s a Pokémon spider with a Big Lake or around this face does a camera spider that actually does that makes its own little diving bell and you shall be plate Getty asked go to film their old when his speciation are your sheets not heard of Wales. What happens if you let your goldfish go as we have to put balls, otherwise they would be too powerful. They have to be contained. Yeah, most are Wales, said there 0p. Yeah, what are the best CPC study girl dwarf Cialis but I don’t says just because they can elves that have weird coloured hair and I also have a coloured hair. I feel like I would. I feel I would go shop at a time limit to any of your adventures before doing the desert and is a full moon day guides. Does anyone have create water, was sorry to be related in the second edition. There was wheel dwarf leopard type of steel hybrids to every full moon would turn into a steel head that so specific. Yeah, like no-go play ball evil water. We like sharps or even left sealed ITC. It was Cecile as a shop. Sure, was head trying to instinctively make it sensible. We hybrids know it has a set think, ultimately, I like the suggestions in the chat just barely spam I would go the shoal of fish working together to stop assess how mind yeah like each fish is collectively a warlock which is housed fish which are your S1 keeper Ranger, but it is a swarm of dolphins fuelling smoky replace smaller things like I was raised del sense is my swarm at arrests like this one across cliché saw swarm swarm of electric yours used out to stop the technological revolution. Yeah, imagine what he could do with power over S1 still calling it a swarm not show any more swarm of electric deals quite a lot of damage. Yeah, swarm keeper swarm need to keep its own school sport, running swarms all the way down swarm was one each of whom has depots for mostly meta swarm swarm. There is a character in one of my games at the moment prison be person with a swarm of bees. What if the Queen B is also a swarm keeper with a swarm of regular people, just like humans for the swarm of babies like swarm of toddlers, I guess, which is one of most horrific images and sending the fighter direct the most destructive force known to man is just by my inventory is just me and my box of my 10,000 toddlers like in the before times. My job involves groups of leg 20 toddlers and our has to within at least three swarms a lot of swarms to make a lot of toddlers who is basically a swarm inspirational like spice from the frothy bad/you don’t need thousands of top school also sounds like really weird motivation. Thousands of toddlers system based B-movie when world of darkness already exists, umpires wearables majors you of also which has to suggest a kindergarten scorekeeper which counsel wins. Yeah, this is your podcast now graduation defeat. Yeah, I do love helping me just suddenly came back D&D suddenly came back B-movie all fulfil. Yeah, I like to be the one I watched. It was a little bit where one tried the otherwise in the first pull blah stay. These films are memes, and rightly so, but I can enjoy the yellow is a good notice and just got help new postman? A show that’s a liking B-movie delegates is really not that bad. This not the best film because no Jerry Seinfeld movie this little ray is making a confession chat. We don’t know that you folks be just that she wants to are which capture cannot podcast so there’s always something isn’t there. Yes will have to keep castings terms and conditions. Turns out apply mousse would make a really good CPC character. People don’t know they can dive to depths of 6 m yeah they didn’t know that is over to various predators of the moose are humans and killer Wales think if you’re doing a C5 scheme seeks again fight should does wonderingly because we’ve made where horses yet he probably would need to do much to to reef skin is aware mousse for what you need is in first mousses like swimming near my right 60s so that horrifying just sitting there and then just burst out of the ground rises 60 yeah might like are neither spoken. Think about shark go. I want to set up a shopping people have attacking about the shop maiden with these in like the third one. This set of this thing of shout leaders can happen in land now because there are sharks just living in the water in the atmosphere in the clouds, which is kind of cool concept and terrifying and then it never comes up again. This set up at the end of the third one and then there’s like three emotional nadir movies and never mention the fact that there are sharks in the cloud, and this bothers me more movie should like just cashing cloud shops much room as a major plot point and not can bring up again. I did like this in the wet shop near with, which is workshop need a lot of parents Lado end in the same way as shark made because that would be a horrifying search of mute the stream for a second. If you don’t wannabe’s. If you want China spoilers. He does get via Shaka maintains on his way out if there was a toddler, nadir that will be all kinds of horrifying, just doesn’t like that of the just, like, really white and swallow legacy make yet more complexity to the players cheese pretty certain face of existing media more needlessly. It’s not horrifying instant nadir because the way done this kind of funny because show made only in highly knows what it is like the second one had multiple wrestlers and Jed would do cameos. They knew it knows what it is. If it was a toddler shop nadir was a serious social black-and-white found footage shot Lado try to shop near possible, as you very well shop nadir. It is to have people hiding in old log cabins. You can hear leg third third top look outside and all the trees been bitten down our guard the man getting further away and make a monster movie about a mega Madonna with 50 giant prehistoric shark. It’s all right assuming each pupil yesterday and Chris. Importantly, though, does Nokia doggy think it’s in the dog dog is fine, not important which, yeah, we should possibly like to go back and lobby system. We just talk about things so was darkness. How about that vampire the masquerade’s going back to Seattle? Nancy don’t know she’ll play players yes, like I think like obviously putting up buyers is a bad idea. But is this something special spring bias white bottle every time the get it, yet discreet with vinyl players and is torture. We tell your players to murder a Spicks and Specks show your players keep following the hero’s journey time at all times. You railroad something like like Saddam was to feed one of the most unbearably potential in C. It refused to gain this selves alleging making clearance and like sires got only got experience when they should build one step in those journey EXPERIENCE, so you will mechanically ought to act heroes journey lockstep level of so. So the answer is just railroading is what you’re saying the answer is players at the state level 0 last day of what’s it called into the belly while the penalty doing them out of order, so just stood outside the big fight waiting seemingly go to next heroes journey to fuming a magical mental to early campaigns over Gogo know you can’t go home. That final step, the journey is just a kiss just the GM sat there like not leaving until all 21 steps of the heroes journey multiple different ones should bring their kin. They have an English degree. This is the only thing they qualified to do. Nick Hero journey to anyway. Here, yeah, suffice medium a heroes journey was not was not amazing popular step outside a house, back into equity is a recurrent problem of your accidentally along this like he joined a wrong party. When you are going. Yeah, there are definitely ways to do filling the sort of ones words like it or taking other stories where it’s like all I have to get the water to wet the stone to sharpen the act to condemn tree legality respond to a fairly simple request. Unlike a noticeboard and to do that one have to do another one and then before you know it you fighting a dragon just you can get someone’s cat home dragging orphans to skiing cats i.e. feel like the way this sort of to enforce role-play. If you don’t choose again kidnaps it then makes sense, and they can’t go home, which also sells the first step of the heroes journey the country – yet. And then they say no, let me go ground,’s refusal of the core down already. This gives you to experience spending six people kidnapped on your RPG its autonomic sense now again was the everlasting you all play. It was really weirdly total. Like, totally dissonant in that you had essentially like alerts, Dracula’s Launcelot and Cthulhu all in the same party which deal clashes a little bit silicone entirely ruin that game by playing the Dracula from dead and Loving it would ruin any. I would like to play that character and world of darkness acted to see hellfire could get it. The five had to do something edgy about five point refuses to succumb to the darkness and instead just ounces party that was just all Nielsen characters comedy Dracula got the guy from aeroplane that the bad guy from Surf ninjas at the Geffen police Academy will be an interesting party’s Peckham Academy, you just pick a random actor all of your characters just perfectly pick Sean Bean debt this social characters live, absolutely. I can only think of one when I’m sure there’s others. Sean Bean has like disadvantage to all deci pros is a special dye that all one et cetera 120 and that’s an the character sharp who probably should die, but did not question chat what you think best actor just say or be person’s character lately osseous different interpretations of the staple track to those couple Halloween is ago mean that what just a bunch of different Dracula films was really weird because they just based on the same story are so many different adaptations. I would like to be Spanish. Dracula was very similar to the family goes to Dracula, except also has a comedy sidekick, I would be a Dracula only hotel Transylvania, Dracula just just tell jokes in a new basis don’t think that would be a good idea. No racist what humans Sean Connery because you get a James Bond halogen system. Get this is my flirting failing is a very vague description basically red bondage gear and has a ponytail and that’s out niceties in the film, but I’m very rebellion with the outfit because it keeps popping up on Tumblr. I literally don’t know the cost. This Marek Mario will not go to is others with me all add. I don’t know anything about. Then Sean, redressing weird TV yeah literally just know the bondage gear features a post-apocalyptic that would explain the outfit post bondage care just wide apocalyptic situated. The only thing left behind sporting goods store. And yes, there is a very question discounts dislike content for review. Apocalyptic campaign to sporting goods was to align post-apocalyptic game where your classes are based on different post-apocalyptic films different light sexuality to post-Yukio oyster’s yeah and there’s just one. One guy from Waterworld is just like my have a boat sat in the middle of the mad Max wasteland by map Waterworld boat boat term, setting the best going to play waterlogged characters just dragged boat along maybe you could adapt to the bowl into some sodden land vehicle just you just love the Desi turnaround pirate ship is charged full speed. I mean, if you add wings to is basically got post-apocalyptic faith in Bang Bang which is also a campaign. I replied yeah percent Labour Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, Mary Poppins’s apology played a game similar to that with you been the one stop game was fun moment. My main memory of it was becoming bondage OEMs Jonah where forms tightly to families context. This was the characters were time yeah should clarify games do not get that what like the Hedwig is brought back around to the grown-up character collapse in the apocalyptic research. One remaining roadblock to build sites deeply recessed box okay but I would play a game where basically we need to find all of the competent adults in the world world where investor competent adults left by the school before someone choice to water filtration system one small group of fighters in bondage gear to find the person that knows about buildings just you need to find one tailored suit. Wearing the themes 40 year these cheesemakers are actual shuttles of heard of this wonderful thing called the skirt. There is low to play character when you’re not just ghost fine word like about a lot of DMS is if you don’t have a skill need to roll freight you can just sailing. I know I spout off some facts about dragons yet. I explain how in the works. When I do sit there knifing situation. Then I do the opposite of’s naptime comes like is the same problem as playing a high-end character. We are just don’t know share my trophy. I can similar but opposite problem where you’re just like with characters, but I’m also quite impulsive. Yeah, okay, I’ve-my three bad ideas what would this carried actually do when you said you had your foes might as the incredibly high IQ GPS I have problems. Same all of an hosted screen, but this yeah I yet problem is all of my satellite in a Thai RL so I try and make like smart character, but regrettably, they do shift source of the plug refines a player high charisma character when you have social anxiety again I go, I go up to these important people and say something witty and profound like you got to me just say, if you throw spidering with one day I have to try that next time my character has to be charismatic and playing a paladin and won the game and say needs any charisma practice is the general problem like touch and it is a problem sushi new telly characters, but so you physically, how would you express executive disco stats by light for partially made systems. I get about, because IQ trying to more and like to think that’s what happens when 1 Disney character once to do the thing they swore happen. Yeah, we will natural wonder. Can’t going. If you roll a one income that say them telling my arm to swing the sword, but my arm is moving. Alternatively, just every time you want to do something. Yes, a roller D10. If you get a 10 to sell stand there or if you game set in 2020, flip a coin, yet 2026 always capture that is. There’s a heavy question asked do LGBT chew i.e. bus trips characters). The so a lot of this is the same as my, with right depends a lot on whether you are one people like bizarre, and whether you sis Heston trying to representation, I think, yeah, the general advice either sex to include wicker’s we have to just characters who are, but is from best not to try Dell to story sending by have a habit and character don’t delve incredibly deeply into story transition, but everyone is free. Everyone tell their own therapy sessions, D&D, something like I make a lot of Lake trans-by whatever characters because I am these things. Like most of my characters are non-binary and use the programs because I use. They pronounce role-playing is like useful for kind of presentation like the because of the forsaken different six. I think it’s underexplored is like a storm. We’re hobby definitely think like I was sort playing a lot of female characters while also coming to terms with trans-by way hence appearance but yeah, there’s death.
A lot more done with just macro weight isn’t offensive singles and having NPC’s just happen to be clear in some way. Yeah, I think so making is just basically, if you have NPC most suspect asked whether they have to insist’s all-weather like you can make is usually you can make some of this very rarely a case very rarely is it the case that the characters exist in like. Usually you can make someone clear that was a nonevent at yeah I think there is also the thing about the single thing a lot of and a lot of stray writers because visitor commands in terms of writing advice to daring do the variegated thing because they basically have a gay character and that character is killed off the personnel not opposed to gay characters dying as long as there are other gay characters. Yeah, I think, yet is a different gene, a gay character. Say, setting water, setting and don’t want gay characters. Those’ is don’t have the gay character of the tractor have a butchers data also needs to anything do is less likely stereotypical like if you have sort of like yellow if you have like a deceptive transponder Research sodium 120 barn and smaller, that’s a trait of this character rather than this is putting forth the people here like absolutely a have a flamboyant flirty gate wing is not the only gay character, yet all your gay character/daytrip tweaks here basically have a lot to cover a lot of great characters have incidental characters, yet heavier yesterday actual actual advice Dyson wackiness.

Yeah, I feel like this is maybe good point to wrap up the stream. Yet unless anyone has any more burning questions now piece someone has come to mentor you would excellent hair between us we have good my hair is 94 cm long hair is less long, then, that so speak ultimate chat. We are rendering it and who handle retroactive causality to young players shifts. I better quit. I would normally either have the time travel sources like either having a kind of case of my like time travel happens offscreen change is with all you have, like the players are players are somehow immune to light when time changes are what they’ve done now timely have to be at the end of the finish of your heart so you Peter Slattery happened out of universe still got to choose. Yet there is also the Star Trek approach of by going back and changing something, creating new timeline, so everything else is now irrelevant. You just massively railroad your players money knows you like notes, tight universe, you finally like to use all the way with no state law, time travelling, just railroading the universe, forcing it into whatever timeline you wanted ahead we could have said there is also not your place retroactive. Our selection yeah I think what you need to do is get all of screen or just life sit eight. This is what paradox feels paper bag. What paradox feels like they don’t know yet because temple and not sure if I have, you know, it feels like being hit with a newspaper which stated that there is a bit reality will legalise this think reality will building is just information to world building or do things every time the strips bottle sprays.

I want to know which way round artists, it does remind me of watching the charity adverts is declared thing every time I snap my fingers. A child dies. It’s every time, every time yeah, but has just like supporting your stock to to sit up. Just hold the switch button you keep splitting it until spoken NASA look 2020 every time a paradox occurs, gets asked that happened. Yeah, I think on the recourse to 26 dots every consequence has an action answered your questions all about retroactive causality photo. I think what we’ve done is go you publish the thank you everyone for watching.

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